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2026-04-13 21:30:38 <monochrom> I once asked a retrocomputing question before it was cool. :) I asked "write Haskell code to do such and such. Bonus credit: Get it run on Apple II". (The "such and such" was done by a BASIC program on Apple II.)
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2026-04-13 21:31:41 <monochrom> It's https://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/cont.xhtml#yield then scroll down to Exercise 5.
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2026-04-13 22:08:56 <EvanR> you're telling me Apple II can run CPS haskell code
2026-04-13 22:17:15 <haskellbridge> <loonycyborg> I wonder if haskell compiler somehow could use dedicated hardware on a lisp machine :P
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2026-04-13 23:46:04 <monochrom> MicroHS may be the closest to be runnable on Apple II. Perhaps not the compiler itself, but looks doable for the generated combinator-based code with an RTS written for Apple II.
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2026-04-13 23:48:21 <monochrom> Someone should take this up as a project for the next April 1! (Bonus credit: Use LLMs to help. >:) )
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2026-04-13 23:54:43 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> gentauro: In particular, Int is 32 bits for js/wasm backends
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2026-04-13 23:55:35 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> but 64 on your everyday server and dev machine, since, y'know, 64 bit registers
2026-04-13 23:55:51 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> Made for some *fun* bugs back in the ghcjs days
2026-04-13 23:56:18 <haskellbridge> <alexfmpe> Never use Int/Word for things leaving your process
2026-04-13 23:57:44 <EvanR> .oO( isn't anything leaving a process in the form of a Word8 array )
2026-04-13 23:59:10 <monochrom> Oh it's the interpretation of those bytes that's the devil in the details!
2026-04-13 23:59:38 <monochrom> Plus you get unexpected truncations etc.
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2026-04-14 00:09:33 <geekosaur> don't forget 29 bit minimum size for Int, vs. the Apple II having an 8-bit CPU
2026-04-14 00:09:47 <geekosaur> you could work with larger numbers but you had to chain ADD+ADC
2026-04-14 00:09:55 <EvanR> "Int" would be emulated so to speak
2026-04-14 00:09:59 <monochrom> Yeah it's going to be so slow. :)
2026-04-14 00:10:07 <EvanR> if it had to be standards conforming
2026-04-14 00:10:39 <EvanR> bonus points for the emulated Int being literally 29 bit
2026-04-14 00:10:42 <geekosaur> (I spent a lot of time doing 6502 asm back then)
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2026-04-14 00:11:28 <geekosaur> it might be if MicroHS steals 3 bits for gc marking
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2026-04-14 00:31:17 <int-e> It's 30 bits per the Haskell 98 report (range -2^29...2^29-1)
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2026-04-14 00:38:07 <geekosaur> oh, sorry, misremembeered where the 29 was
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