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2021-07-24 20:37:15 <monochrom> I have an amd cpu so I don't need arms yet.
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2021-07-24 21:44:26 <maerwald> https://github.com/haskell/process/issues/51 amazing
2021-07-24 21:44:32 <maerwald> windows is a gold mine of issues
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2021-07-24 21:47:30 <oso> i straight up got a dual boot linux setup going just to get around the issues setting up a full haskell environment on windows
2021-07-24 21:48:22 <davean> oso: oh, you use Haskell on windows? I've seen trying to find people that do, though I've forgotten why
2021-07-24 21:48:47 <oso> i did for maybe a week until the drive arrived for me to set up linux again
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2021-07-24 21:48:56 <oso> it was too hard getting all the versions to line up on windows
2021-07-24 21:49:00 <maerwald> oso: ghcup now supports windows :>
2021-07-24 21:49:13 <oso> ooooh
2021-07-24 21:49:29 <oso> not sure how i missed that in my searches, thanks
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2021-07-24 21:52:44 <maerwald> but I'm not pleased by the state of our core packges
2021-07-24 21:53:03 <maerwald> this issue was raised 2016
2021-07-24 21:53:46 <maerwald> Snoyman is listed as CLC maintainer
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2021-07-24 21:57:06 <davean> maerwald: I think the process issue reflects us not having a lot of windows people around to check or research things
2021-07-24 21:57:17 <davean> maerwald: thats fixed by usership I believe
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2021-07-24 21:57:31 <davean> Things like random 1.2 worry me more
2021-07-24 21:57:39 <dminuoso> You'd think that SPJ working for microsoft research would "research things" for us! :-)
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2021-07-24 21:57:54 <janus> what's wrong with random 1.2?
2021-07-24 21:58:10 <davean> janus: look at its API, tell me what you can know about anything or how you can write anything sane based on it
2021-07-24 21:58:21 <davean> compare it to what you can write with 1.1
2021-07-24 21:58:36 <davean> janus: note all the features 1.2 added w ehad on a saner base in 1.1 with things like random-fu
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2021-07-24 21:58:53 <davean> janus: we lost all the laws in exchange for ... what?
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2021-07-24 21:59:24 <oso> so i shouldn't take it out on myself for struggling with random numbers? :')
2021-07-24 21:59:48 <davean> we went from a type class with some meaning to one where you can't even be sure you can call the functions in the type class
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2021-07-24 21:59:55 <geekosaur> it's a difficult API although I've managed to do things with it
2021-07-24 22:00:37 <maerwald> well, there was great drama around it, so my impression was CLC acted more out of pressure there
2021-07-24 22:00:41 <geekosaur> that said davean has me wondering how correct it is
2021-07-24 22:00:54 <davean> maerwald: oh?

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