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| 2021-08-12 16:31:10 | <seiryn> | Can we ask for help on this channel ? |
| 2021-08-12 16:31:19 | <geekosaur> | sure |
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| 2021-08-12 16:34:28 | <lechner> | Hi, I am having a small love affair with yi, the editor. Why was that project abandoned, please? Also, why doesn't Ctrl-y (yank) work over ssh? |
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| 2021-08-12 16:35:20 | <dsal> | Because you should be using mosh, obviously. :P |
| 2021-08-12 16:35:53 | <geekosaur> | check terminal settings, ctrl-y at least used to be delayed suspend |
| 2021-08-12 16:36:21 | <dsal> | Projects are hard to keep up with. Some of us make hundreds of them to solve small problems and then get lonely because that sort of of application doesn't get a lot of traction. |
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| 2021-08-12 16:36:56 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I think they just ran out of people willing to put in time on it |
| 2021-08-12 16:37:34 | <geekosaur> | and there are already lots of editors |
| 2021-08-12 16:37:46 | <geekosaur> | they're competing with neovim, for example |
| 2021-08-12 16:38:22 | <seiryn> | Aaah nevermind, while trying to be sure about the name of the syntax i realised that i missed a language expension huhu |
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| 2021-08-12 16:41:47 | <lechner> | geekosaur: on Debian, yi is the only lightweight emacs clone that supports Unicode. There is nothing like it. I even thought about suggesting it to Linus Thorvalds as a replacement for MicroEmacs, which he compiles himself because it cannot be distributed https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MicroEmacs |
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| 2021-08-12 16:53:20 | <sm> | emacs clone ? I thought it was more vi like |
| 2021-08-12 16:54:24 | <shapr> | I thought it was both? |
| 2021-08-12 16:55:05 | <Clint> | different keybinding sets do not a clone make |
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| 2021-08-12 16:56:51 | <sm> | https://github.com/yi-editor/yi/issues/1114 |
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| 2021-08-12 17:31:19 | <dsal> | Yeah, if you use emacs and someone has a "great modern editor" that's much better and also has emacs key bindings, you'll generally be very disappointed. Key bindings are a minor part of emacs. |
| 2021-08-12 17:31:41 | <dsal> | (which is also architecturally ancient and would be great if something actually *could* replace it, but there have been few attempts) |
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| 2021-08-12 17:34:53 | <geekosaur> | supposedly gnu wants to redo emacs based on guile, but they sure are taking a long time to do it |
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| 2021-08-12 17:35:10 | <monochrom> | Hell, they still haven't finished Hurd. >:) |
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| 2021-08-12 17:35:56 | <monochrom> | And I thought I was the greatest procrastinator especially when it comes to finishing and delivery. |
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| 2021-08-12 17:38:10 | <dsal> | Yeah, I guess one of the hard things is that emacs to me is all the modes I run which would be unlikely to work under guile. |
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| 2021-08-12 17:38:55 | <dminuoso> | geekosaur: To be fair, "redoing emacs in <insert-language>" is a very popular hobby.. |
| 2021-08-12 17:39:25 | <dminuoso> | I wouldn't be surprised if someone has done emacs in elisp - because why not run an editor inside your editor. |
| 2021-08-12 17:40:22 | <dsal> | emacs is mostly just an elisp program already |
| 2021-08-12 17:40:23 | <geekosaur> | worse than that, I think. iirc someone implemented TECO in elisp, then ran the original emacs in it to show how complete it was |
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| 2021-08-12 17:42:10 | <monochrom> | That's pretty deep and ironic inception. :) |
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| 2021-08-12 17:54:22 | <justsomeguy> | I'm writing a simple tool to list broken links on a webpage, given a url. Is there any reason not to use Network.HTTP? I vaguely recall getting errors about not being able to retrieve urls that use HTTPS, but can't seem to replicate it. |
| 2021-08-12 17:55:19 | <justsomeguy> | I thought I'd ask now, while my program is still small, before I've commited to using a particular library. |
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| 2021-08-12 17:59:10 | <justsomeguy> | Actually, I think that was a dumb question. I'll figure it out with some experimentation. |
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| 2021-08-12 18:10:08 | <seiryn> | Hmmmm, vim syntax highlighting mess up with quasiquote |
| 2021-08-12 18:11:58 | <dminuoso> | I guess syntax highlighting is complicated to do right in Haskell, in particular in the presence of language extensions. |
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| 2021-08-12 18:12:24 | <dminuoso> | It seems like you cant reasonably do this well and consistently unless you use ghc-lib |
| 2021-08-12 18:15:06 | <maerwald[m]> | seiryn: haha, quasiquotes also break hlint, HLS and hasktags |
| 2021-08-12 18:15:29 | <maerwald[m]> | Depending on how you use them |
| 2021-08-12 18:15:56 | <seiryn> | Quasiquotes, what do you want to destroy ? YES |
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