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| 2021-06-22 12:31:23 | <tomsmeding> | merijn: you're still on top in the freenode stats |
| 2021-06-22 12:31:38 | <merijn> | Yes |
| 2021-06-22 12:31:43 | <merijn> | but not nearly as much as before >.> |
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| 2021-06-22 12:38:06 | <boxscape> | tomsmeding: I don't use either of those things, so I guess that completes the set |
| 2021-06-22 12:38:13 | <tomsmeding> | nice |
| 2021-06-22 12:39:06 | <maerwald> | I used to use formatters, but then I realized they're just a form of OCD treatment |
| 2021-06-22 12:39:16 | <tomsmeding> | perhaps there is a non-trivial (indirect) causal relationship between "uses IRC" and "doesn't like software to decide code formatting for them" |
| 2021-06-22 12:39:41 | <tomsmeding> | where maerwald doesn't count because you use matrix |
| 2021-06-22 12:39:56 | <maerwald> | no, I'm on Irc and matrix |
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| 2021-06-22 12:40:21 | <maerwald[m]> | maerwald: right |
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| 2021-06-22 12:40:28 | <tomsmeding> | :D |
| 2021-06-22 12:40:34 | <tomsmeding> | ok then double |
| 2021-06-22 12:40:46 | tomsmeding | wonders why you're on both |
| 2021-06-22 12:41:06 | <maerwald> | different clients... irc client on mobile can be wonky |
| 2021-06-22 12:41:22 | <tomsmeding> | ah yes mobile clients for irc, the swampfest |
| 2021-06-22 12:41:39 | <tomsmeding> | freenode has an app now! |
| 2021-06-22 12:42:20 | <maerwald> | Revolution IRC works, ish, but it can swallow DMs that I have to recover by logging into my bouncer and grepping through files |
| 2021-06-22 12:42:25 | <maerwald> | software. .. |
| 2021-06-22 12:42:46 | <tomsmeding> | it can swallow DMs? that's good to know I guess |
| 2021-06-22 12:42:55 | <tomsmeding> | also it eats a lot of battery |
| 2021-06-22 12:44:10 | <maerwald> | yeah, DM windows get closed after a reconnect or so |
| 2021-06-22 12:44:21 | <maerwald> | which is... a lot on mobile |
| 2021-06-22 12:44:32 | tomsmeding | doesn't have that problem, perhaps it's some interaction with the bouncer? I'm using znc |
| 2021-06-22 12:44:39 | <maerwald> | me too |
| 2021-06-22 12:44:46 | <maerwald> | weechat works normal |
| 2021-06-22 12:44:52 | <tomsmeding> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 2021-06-22 12:45:03 | <maerwald> | gg |
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| 2021-06-22 12:49:56 | <trcc> | Off-topic, but people are usually good to come up with stuff in here: I am to argue in a funding application for an open-source library (paid (very cheap) if commercial use -> money goes to non-for-profit association). How can I argue over big industrial products by e.g. Siemens on anything else than price? A pricey tool can provide 24/7 support, a overwhelming amount of features, great user-interface etc. Any ideas on pote |
| 2021-06-22 12:49:56 | <trcc> | ntial ideas? |
| 2021-06-22 12:50:43 | <trcc> | No vendor lock-in is one... Open-source is of course another |
| 2021-06-22 12:51:05 | <trcc> | but typically such industrial tools supports customization |
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| 2021-06-22 12:52:00 | <maerwald> | you mean why open source is better than. ..what? |
| 2021-06-22 12:53:17 | <trcc> | a commercial tool from the point of view of industry. |
| 2021-06-22 12:53:31 | <trcc> | anything else to compete on except price? |
| 2021-06-22 12:54:06 | <maerwald> | It allows to build an ecosystem of contributors |
| 2021-06-22 12:54:39 | <maerwald> | More coverage/users, potentially, for early stage products |
| 2021-06-22 12:55:00 | <trcc> | many commercial tools do so as well through plugins |
| 2021-06-22 12:55:22 | <maerwald> | Not in the same way, no |
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| 2021-06-22 12:57:09 | <maerwald> | Then there's the ethical dimension snd the security dimension. for the latter you can find tons of posts from Bruce Schneier |
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| 2021-06-22 12:58:19 | <trcc> | The ethical is an easy one. The security dimension is more tough. |
| 2021-06-22 12:58:29 | <trcc> | I will target a bit on the ethical part |
| 2021-06-22 12:58:35 | <maerwald> | there's also the trust argument: would you put your money on a proprietary blockchain? |
| 2021-06-22 12:58:38 | <trcc> | Can you elaborate on "not in the same way"? |
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| 2021-06-22 12:59:14 | <maerwald> | Linux Kernel |
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| 2021-06-22 13:00:14 | <maerwald> | there's also the "it's more like the science approach " argument |
| 2021-06-22 13:00:53 | <maerwald> | not much more so salvage, except marketing those arguments more fancy |
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| 2021-06-22 13:06:47 | <trcc> | hehe ye. Thanks |
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| 2021-06-22 13:14:09 | <lwe[m]> | Hey guys, I’d love to learn Haskell. Can you recommend any books, tutors? |
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| 2021-06-22 13:14:45 | <maerwald> | @where learnhaskell |
| 2021-06-22 13:14:45 | <lambdabot> | https://wiki.haskell.org/Learning_Haskell |
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| 2021-06-22 13:15:14 | <maerwald> | @where cis192 |
| 2021-06-22 13:15:14 | <lambdabot> | I know nothing about cis192. |
| 2021-06-22 13:15:47 | <maerwald> | @where cis194 |
| 2021-06-22 13:15:47 | <lambdabot> | https://www.seas.upenn.edu/~cis194/spring13/lectures.html |
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| 2021-06-22 13:16:05 | <maerwald> | lwe[m]: ^ |
| 2021-06-22 13:16:10 | <lwe[m]> | Thank you 💕 |
| 2021-06-22 13:16:44 | <rawles> | It sounds really obvious, but I found with Haskell more than other languages that having my own mini-project to try to realise in code, even if it wasn't the best code, really helped me learn. |
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