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2021-06-20 12:41:01 <Axman6> qrpnxz: you should look at unison
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2021-06-20 12:41:26 <qrpnxz> what is it
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2021-06-20 12:44:27 <koishi_> is it possible to quantify over all type classes in an instance?
2021-06-20 12:44:53 <koishi_> e.g. instance forall cls. cls (C cls)
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2021-06-20 12:47:05 <koishi_> I presume it's impossible due to the first order logic used in haskell 'class language', but google doesn't tell me anything about second-order class instances
2021-06-20 12:48:04 <koishi_> so there doesn't exist any language that support this second-order thing, right?
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2021-06-20 13:43:36 <sclv> ah drat they left or i would have pointed em to constraint kinds
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2021-06-20 14:09:23 <MemorableNewt> I want to create an AST with multiple constructors, including some recursive, e.g. `data T = A | B T | C T T`, but I want to exclude certain patterns, e.g. in `C x y` I want to forbid `x == A` and `y == A`. Are there any general techniques for doing this concisely?
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2021-06-20 14:13:24 <MemorableNewt> If I only want to exclude the left argument of a `C` from being `A`, for example, then I could do it by attaching an extra kind parameter, e.g. `data T b where A :: T False; B :: T True -> T b; C :: T False -> T True -> T b`. But I don't see any way of generalising this.
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2021-06-20 14:15:23 <MemorableNewt> (correction: `A :: T False` should be `A :: T True` above)
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