Logs: liberachat/#haskell
| 2021-08-10 07:33:02 | <dibblego> | Sun/IBM used to do that for the JVM |
| 2021-08-10 07:34:13 | <edwardk> | exactly |
| 2021-08-10 07:34:25 | <Gurkenglas> | So you'd still not see that as ethical, huh. i wonder if there's some blockchain system that could solve the intellectual property problem. |
| 2021-08-10 07:34:55 | <edwardk> | ooh, now you can burn down the rainforest AND get a bunch of lawyers sucked into an intellectual property fight ;) |
| 2021-08-10 07:35:27 | <Gurkenglas> | 1. incentivize everyone to tell the blockchain whenever they're running some piece of code on any hardware |
| 2021-08-10 07:35:46 | <Gurkenglas> | 2. reward people for correctly predicting code that will be run later |
| 2021-08-10 07:35:54 | <edwardk> | definitely doing humanity's job as an approximate entropy accelerator there. ;) |
| 2021-08-10 07:36:12 | <Gurkenglas> | now when you invent code you register the prediction what sort of code will see use, then publish it |
| 2021-08-10 07:36:31 | <Gurkenglas> | blockchain doesnt have to burn rainforest, there's the likes of proof of stake |
| 2021-08-10 07:37:12 | <edwardk> | i lost enough money on proof of stake over the last year that while i'm still a true believer in it, i acknowledge that the entire sector is driven on sentiment and not fundamentals. |
| 2021-08-10 07:37:32 | <siraben> | edwardk: sorry to hear |
| 2021-08-10 07:37:56 | <Gurkenglas> | surely you saw coming that the investment is risky, and didn't update on 3 bits of evidence as though they are 20? |
| 2021-08-10 07:38:01 | <siraben> | I worked on smart contracts in the past but my opinion of the field has been mixed as of late |
| 2021-08-10 07:38:24 | <siraben> | we know the technical problems that need to be solved but the public sees dogecoin |
| 2021-08-10 07:38:34 | <siraben> | so funding goes to the wrong arras |
| 2021-08-10 07:38:36 | <siraben> | areas |
| 2021-08-10 07:38:38 | <edwardk> | spent two days consulting with IOHK to improve the performance of plutus core on cardano ~70%, which should be something like what, 30% reduction in the total gas costs for something like $50b worth of market cap? you'd think if that was reliably able to be converted into fundamentals it'd make difference. not a blip. |
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| 2021-08-10 07:39:00 | <edwardk> | Gurkenglas: i remain invested |
| 2021-08-10 07:39:22 | <Gurkenglas> | I'm hopeful that some blockchain design might incentivize the world to become the sort of world that can execute a 51% attack on a blockchain, and therefore might also be able to cooperate on more important issues |
| 2021-08-10 07:39:36 | <Gurkenglas> | Like the Watchmen plot, except you don't need to burn any capital |
| 2021-08-10 07:39:40 | <edwardk> | hah |
| 2021-08-10 07:40:02 | <gehmehgeh> | Gurkenglas: but it's only going to be the obscenely rich owning almost everything, so we'd still be stuck with an oligarchy |
| 2021-08-10 07:40:49 | dibblego | back to study with a slide rule |
| 2021-08-10 07:41:01 | <gehmehgeh> | Gurkenglas: That is, people with different interests than the broader public |
| 2021-08-10 07:41:05 | <gehmehgeh> | but nvm, sorry to bore you ;) |
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| 2021-08-10 07:41:26 | <Gurkenglas> | im interested to discuss, edward has to go anyway he said |
| 2021-08-10 07:41:49 | <Gurkenglas> | but i suppose we must take it out of #haskell :/ |
| 2021-08-10 07:42:00 | <Gurkenglas> | --> #haskell-offtopic |
| 2021-08-10 07:42:16 | <edwardk> | Gurkenglas: i don't hate on blockchain as a technology base. proof of stake, single party advancement chains that use it as a cryptographic historical transaction log (digital asset), etc. all build on that basic technology stack and aren't overtly 'evil', but the whole sector relies too much on some kind of technopriest illuminati and has no ability to handle nuance. its way too far for an efficient market for me to be happy with it |
| 2021-08-10 07:42:48 | <edwardk> | lets move to #haskell-offtopic, yes |
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| 2021-08-10 08:07:46 | <Cajun> | -+ |
| 2021-08-10 08:08:03 | <Cajun> | i hate the numpad sometimes :P |
| 2021-08-10 08:08:23 | <Akronymus> | I can't do without one. |
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| 2021-08-10 08:08:50 | <Cajun> | same, but its annoying when i go to grab the mouse and hit either 0. or -+ then hit enter like i just did lol |
| 2021-08-10 08:10:05 | <Akronymus> | Or when the pc boots up with numpad disabled so you type in your password that includes numbers but because the numpad is disabled it doesn't put them in so you misstype the PW too often then you need to get a PW reset and its annoying. |
| 2021-08-10 08:11:06 | <Cajun> | it sometimes takes me 1/2 times to realize the numlock is off and my cursor is going crazy lol |
| 2021-08-10 08:11:19 | <Cajun> | well text cursor thingy, whatever its called |
| 2021-08-10 08:11:52 | <MorrowM> | Akronymus: At least with a PIN you don't need numlock, on Windows 10 |
| 2021-08-10 08:12:11 | <Akronymus> | You don't |
| 2021-08-10 08:12:13 | <Akronymus> | ? |
| 2021-08-10 08:12:24 | <Cajun> | pin specifically, not password |
| 2021-08-10 08:12:29 | <MorrowM> | ^ |
| 2021-08-10 08:12:32 | <Akronymus> | Huh. |
| 2021-08-10 08:12:38 | <Akronymus> | Gotta try that out at home. |
| 2021-08-10 08:13:08 | <Cajun> | pins are numbers only though, so unless you convert it perfectly into leet youre going to need a new pw :P |
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| 2021-08-10 08:14:25 | <Akronymus> | I already use a pin at home. |
| 2021-08-10 08:14:34 | <Akronymus> | Just at work atm. |
| 2021-08-10 08:14:46 | <Akronymus> | Where I am most definitely doing work. |
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