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2026-04-14 15:07:04 <Milan_Vanca> from C, by importint lib and not to have all that js interpreter and browser specific apis.
2026-04-14 15:07:54 <Milan_Vanca> HTML/CSS rendering should be extracted to separate library with C binding. And let all javafx, swing, maui, qt, gtk die.
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2026-04-14 15:09:09 <Milan_Vanca> And we could finaly have nice native apps.
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2026-04-14 15:24:06 <duste3> Hello, how to generate cabal.project? I did cabal init but it didn't create it
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2026-04-14 15:29:49 <comerijn> duste3: Do you need one?
2026-04-14 15:29:58 <comerijn> cabal init generates a cabal file
2026-04-14 15:30:07 <comerijn> You do not necessarily need a cabal.project
2026-04-14 15:30:27 <Milan_Vanca> Isn't it project.cabal?
2026-04-14 15:30:43 <geekosaur> no
2026-04-14 15:30:43 <Milan_Vanca> ah no
2026-04-14 15:30:55 <Milan_Vanca> my bad
2026-04-14 15:31:06 <int-e> hmm... https://hackage.haskell.org/package/project isn't taken ;)
2026-04-14 15:31:12 <Milan_Vanca> :D
2026-04-14 15:31:40 <Milan_Vanca> I just manually created file cabal.project and that is all
2026-04-14 15:32:11 <comerijn> Milan_Vanca: Like I said, you very often don't even need one
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2026-04-14 15:36:16 <Milan_Vanca> comerijn: Yes I agree
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2026-04-14 15:45:32 <gentauro> [exa]: you are at Kent Uni?
2026-04-14 15:46:17 <gentauro> __monty__: no, but you can write typed <@@ … @@> and untyped <@ … @> very easily in F#
2026-04-14 15:46:42 <gentauro> comerijn: ditto
2026-04-14 15:47:58 <gentauro> janus: I've been doing some testing on Native F# combined with UoM and low-level. Rust is in shambles (I will firstly use ANY language that has ML-family syntax with enforced scope indentation)
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2026-04-14 15:51:33 <duste3> comerijn: yes I have dependencies on gitlab
2026-04-14 15:51:43 <duste3> I created it by hand
2026-04-14 15:52:38 <gentauro> janus: you need .NET core so you can develop from Linux :P (Windows.Forms and other garbage from the Framework doesn't work on Linux)
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2026-04-14 15:53:07 <janus> gentauro: but who is caring for .NET on linux? i don't think anyone is sufficiently incentivized
2026-04-14 15:53:19 <gentauro> so now `dotnet` is .NET Core, while .NET Framework is "legacy" (and actually not supported anymore, but, too many orgs are still using it)
2026-04-14 15:53:43 <janus> if i have to rely on big-tech, i want it to be supported for the next 30 years
2026-04-14 15:53:44 <gentauro> janus: ehhhh, you know that 99% of everything running on Azure is Linux right? Right?
2026-04-14 15:54:08 <janus> yeah yeah i know. now we're talking about present day microsoft again. a paas company
2026-04-14 15:54:09 <int-e> janus: build with bricks
2026-04-14 15:55:10 <janus> gentauro: the fact that microsoft has 5 UI frameworks for windows, which will be supported into eternity, but they don't even support one on linux, shows you that they are not serious about linux
2026-04-14 15:55:23 <gentauro> janus: a company from the past? What do you know that we dont? Tell us :o
2026-04-14 15:55:38 gentauro btw, I know janus IRL xD
2026-04-14 15:55:51 <janus> i know i am anachronistic
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2026-04-14 15:56:02 <janus> it's what makes me happy
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2026-04-14 15:56:37 <gentauro> janus: the "only" good UI ever to come out of Microsoft -> https://github.com/gui-cs/Terminal.Gui (made by Miguel de Icaza) ;)
2026-04-14 15:57:09 gentauro wished we had that for Haskell :'(
2026-04-14 15:57:10 <Milan_Vanca> janus: Sadly not enough ppl.. .NET is amazing... Imagine GHC to work only on macOS?
2026-04-14 15:57:19 <janus> ooh, maybe that is a good idea for WeirdUI! embrace the Windows terminal API! hahaha
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2026-04-14 15:57:49 <janus> i've heard that it has advantages, like no in-band signalling like ANSI codes
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2026-04-14 15:58:07 <janus> i know microsoft supports ansi now. they've given up. i refuse to let them
2026-04-14 15:59:01 <gentauro> janus: I haven't used Windows in ages, but I have made .NET projects (all from NixOS + Xmonad + Emacs)
2026-04-14 15:59:51 <janus> gentauro: what's the story behind your green-on-black terminal colors without syntax highlighting?
2026-04-14 16:00:05 <gentauro> janus: huh?
2026-04-14 16:00:06 <janus> is that how it looked when you got into programming? genuine question.
2026-04-14 16:00:24 <janus> gentauro: i've seen your screenshots, they often have green text on a black background
2026-04-14 16:00:46 <gentauro> janus: this is my access to programming -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amstrad_CPC464.jpg
2026-04-14 16:01:03 gentauro perhaps this is for #haskell-offtopic?
2026-04-14 16:01:15 <janus> yeah sorry
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2026-04-14 16:23:12 <[exa]> gentauro: no in Prague
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2026-04-14 16:51:08 <gentauro> [exa]: is Tomas in Prague? :o
2026-04-14 16:51:53 <gentauro> oh, I guess him and the wife (both from CZ) moved back to EU once Brexit. Makes sense
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