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2021-06-04 08:14:13 <bor0> Ah, yea. Can ignore that :) Just some code to play around with mixing monads
2021-06-04 08:14:33 <c_wraith> fooEq is weird, in that the monad laws say it should be the same as foo
2021-06-04 08:14:37 <dminuoso> Second, you should use `fmap` rather than `>>= (\x -> return (...))`
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2021-06-04 08:15:24 <dminuoso> Its hard to decipher what you're trying to accomplish.
2021-06-04 08:16:20 <dminuoso> Though from what I can see, monad transformers is indeed what you should be exploring.
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2021-06-04 08:16:39 <bor0> I want the same functionality of `combined` in `do` notation. Something I tried is https://paste.tomsmeding.com/NpMW45IZ (and different combinations) but they all type errored
2021-06-04 08:18:31 <dminuoso> bor0: Look into using ExceptT + StateT.
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2021-06-04 08:18:54 <bor0> Yeah, I came to that conclusion from Google but as I said, just exercising with transforming them manually for now :)
2021-06-04 08:19:02 <dminuoso> e.g. what you seem to be after is just `ExceptT String (State Int)` and `StateT Int (ExceptT String)`
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2021-06-04 08:19:36 <dminuoso> Oops, the latter should read `StateT Int (Except T)`
2021-06-04 08:19:49 <c_wraith> bor0: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ICIGlNG5 It's a completely mechanical translation
2021-06-04 08:20:08 <c_wraith> other than the spot where I backspaced too far once :)
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2021-06-04 08:20:25 <bor0> Ahh..
2021-06-04 08:21:02 <c_wraith> also, whenever you have a single bind followed by a return, you shouldn't be using do notation. as dminuoso says, that's just an fmap
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2021-06-04 08:21:13 <bor0> OK I see where my error was. So you "lift" (or transform or whatever the best term is) in the end (after return), and you don't do it in between `do` and `return`
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2021-06-04 08:21:47 <c_wraith> The monad transformer stuff is sort of entirely orthogonal to what I did
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2021-06-04 08:22:10 <bor0> Is it? We combine State + Either monads?
2021-06-04 08:22:19 <c_wraith> That's a semantic transformation
2021-06-04 08:22:19 Heffalump parts (~ganesh@urchin.earth.li) ()
2021-06-04 08:22:30 <c_wraith> I just did a syntactic transformation
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2021-06-04 08:24:02 <bor0> OK, yeah :) I need to get used to translating these mechanically
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2021-06-04 08:24:57 <c_wraith> the big mistake you made was dropping the return in the middle of your definition of combined
2021-06-04 08:25:06 <bor0> Yeah ^
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2021-06-04 08:31:01 <kuribas> is it possible to turn some warnings into errors at project level?
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2021-06-04 08:36:48 <sm[m]> kuribas: you can set GHC flags in your package.yaml/cabal file, ghc-options: -Wall -Werror sort of thing
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2021-06-04 08:38:54 <maerwald> cabal.project is project wide, package.yaml/cabal not
2021-06-04 08:39:38 <maerwald> kuribas: top-level ghc-options isn't supported in cabal.project yet, so you have to spell out ghc-options for every local project target explicitly
2021-06-04 08:39:40 <maerwald> I think
2021-06-04 08:40:03 <kuribas> does ghc-options work in ghci?
2021-06-04 08:40:10 <kuribas> for example cabal repl?
2021-06-04 08:41:04 <maerwald> I think so... at least I get warnings about flags clashing with the repl sometimes
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2021-06-04 08:56:50 <kuribas> ok, thanks
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2021-06-04 09:04:22 <jumper149> Hi, whats the difference between STM from GHC.Conc and from Control.Concurrent.STM
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2021-06-04 09:04:51 <c_wraith> nothing
2021-06-04 09:05:29 <c_wraith> GHC.Conc is where the actual implementation is located. Control.Concurrent.STM is the interface to it that isn't specific to GHC.
2021-06-04 09:07:14 <c_wraith> But the actual types exported are the same. You can import STM from either and they will work together
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