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2026-02-19 09:40:39 <gentauro> jackdk: and sshine -> https://github.com/sdiehl/wiwinwlh/tree/master and https://sdiehl.github.io/wiwinwlh/ ;)
2026-02-19 09:46:47 <chromoblob> well, i was joking
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2026-02-19 09:59:14 × arandombit quits (~arandombi@user/arandombit) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2026-02-19 10:05:54 <gentauro> what are the name of the bots here in this channel? Is there a command to invoke a list of them :)
2026-02-19 10:07:34 <[exa]> as you command! lambdabot, yahb
2026-02-19 10:08:59 <[exa]> ( oh I mean yahb2 )
2026-02-19 10:09:04 <merijn> I think it's pretty much just lambdabot and yahb, yeah
2026-02-19 10:09:44 <[exa]> looks like they are the only voiced nicks here, together with dr haskellbridge
2026-02-19 10:11:54 <gentauro> % :t 42
2026-02-19 10:11:54 <yahb2> 42 :: Num a => a
2026-02-19 10:12:00 <gentauro> > :t 42
2026-02-19 10:12:01 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input `:'
2026-02-19 10:12:19 <gentauro> > [1]
2026-02-19 10:12:20 <lambdabot> [1]
2026-02-19 10:12:44 <gentauro> so lambdabot is not wrapping `ghci` right?
2026-02-19 10:13:13 <[exa]> :t 42
2026-02-19 10:13:14 <lambdabot> Num a => a
2026-02-19 10:13:19 <[exa]> depends on how you look at it
2026-02-19 10:13:23 <gentauro> https://wiki.haskell.org/IRC_channel#Bots
2026-02-19 10:13:42 <gentauro> «… there is a bot called yahb which runs your request in an actual GHCi prompt»
2026-02-19 10:14:01 <merijn> gentauro: lambdabot is using the mueval library
2026-02-19 10:14:18 <merijn> Whereas yahb is a sandboxed ghci session
2026-02-19 10:14:41 <gentauro> merijn: and Safe-Haskell -> https://old.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/kbayi9/is_safe_haskell_still_being_developed/gffxtai/
2026-02-19 10:14:47 <gentauro> which makes sense
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2026-02-19 10:18:08 <tomsmeding> yahb2 is an independent rewrite of yahb that has roughly the same functionality (as far as I know), because the original disappeared in... IIRC the freenode->libera switch?
2026-02-19 10:18:10 <gentauro> has lambdabot been running since 2005 :o https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Lambdabot#@version
2026-02-19 10:18:43 gentauro `#haskell lambdabot ghc-6.2.2 (Mar 30 20:48:23 EST 2005)` :o
2026-02-19 10:19:04 <tomsmeding> cool
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2026-02-19 10:20:45 <int-e> https://github.com/lambdabot/lambdabot/commit/dcf37df705533dd694c471cdb5cff2965b44611f "import latest lambdabot", October 29th 2004. I don't know whether it was in #haskell at the time.
2026-02-19 10:21:29 <int-e> But it probably was, judging by how many people had already contributed.
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2026-02-19 10:22:01 <gentauro> int-e: I guess you could argue it's "mature" and "enterprise ready" :D
2026-02-19 10:22:20 <int-e> ...sure, let's go with that
2026-02-19 10:22:43 <tomsmeding> from the TODO file: "unit tests, quickcheck tests, written tests... ok, maybe not written"
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2026-02-19 10:23:50 <gentauro> int-e: I'm going to link to it cos a really big company is requesting AI-security xD
2026-02-19 10:24:23 <gentauro> I mean, interacting securily with code over chat …
2026-02-19 10:24:38 gentauro probably gonna be blocked on LinkedIn, but worth it (Y)
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2026-02-19 10:27:13 <gentauro> hmmmm, the usage of `Safe Haskell` has to be a later refactoring -> «[Safe Haskell]: (David Terei, David Mazières, Simon Marlow, Simon Peyton Jones) Haskell ’12: Proceedings of the Fifth ACM SIGPLAN Symposium on Haskell, Copenhagen, Denmark, ACM, 2012»
2026-02-19 10:27:32 <int-e> gentauro: I'll assume you're not aware that I'm running the thing (and haven't really given it much love beyond that in the past years) :P
2026-02-19 10:28:33 <gentauro> int-e: «The bot is operated by IRC user int-e and provides many useful services for visitors to the IRC channel» -> https://wiki.haskell.org/IRC_channel#lambdabot (point taken)
2026-02-19 10:28:40 <gentauro> and thx for mainting it xD
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2026-02-19 10:29:42 <gentauro> isn't there a quote that "all programing languages will converge to Haskell"? If yes, who said it first? :)
2026-02-19 10:29:52 gentauro or was it SML?
2026-02-19 10:30:41 × arandombit quits (~arandombi@user/arandombit) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2026-02-19 10:32:51 <gentauro> int-e: seriously, if you wanna make "big bucks" just expand this feature list with "interact with AI-LLM" xD
2026-02-19 10:33:30 <int-e> gentauro: I'd rather eat glass.
2026-02-19 10:33:43 <gentauro> if they paid 1bn USD for the OpenClaw "thingy" your bot might be worth 1trillion xD https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/18/anthropic-pentagon-ai-defense-war-surveillance.html
2026-02-19 10:33:51 <int-e> (Apparently that's the cool retort these days.)
2026-02-19 10:33:52 <gentauro> int-e: I'm with you on that one
2026-02-19 10:34:05 <gentauro> but, make a trillion dollars and pay us all to work with Haskell non-stop
2026-02-19 10:34:10 <int-e> gentauro: I feel that it was Lisp... and specifically, a *worse* implementation of Lisp.
2026-02-19 10:34:12 <gentauro> become our Lord and Saviour :P
2026-02-19 10:34:18 <int-e> gentauro: But I can't find the code.
2026-02-19 10:34:22 <int-e> quote even
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2026-02-19 10:35:10 gentauro forgot to provide "feature list" https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Lambdabot#Features (more features than most TUI agents out there …)
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2026-02-19 10:35:44 <__monty__> It's Greenspun's tenth rule, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule
2026-02-19 10:35:52 <int-e> @v
2026-02-19 10:35:52 <lambdabot> "\"#$%&'()*+,\""
2026-02-19 10:36:43 <int-e> @brain
2026-02-19 10:36:44 <lambdabot> What can I do for fun, Pinky? That's it! I'll send several
2026-02-19 10:36:44 <lambdabot> bills to Senate for ratification, then veto them all!
2026-02-19 10:37:11 <int-e> I forgot most of these spammy commands.
2026-02-19 10:37:15 <gentauro> xD
2026-02-19 10:37:47 <gentauro> int-e: as the MS peeps say: "It's a feature". You just need to brand it as: "Yeah, as all your AI stuff, lambdabot also hallucinates"
2026-02-19 10:38:13 <gentauro> int-e: I have just showed you the way to infinite money :P
2026-02-19 10:39:08 <int-e> I've played video games, I know about infinite money glitches.
2026-02-19 10:39:25 <int-e> But most of those don't have an economy to sustain.
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2026-02-19 10:42:56 <gentauro> int-e: I've never been a fan of all the crypto stuff, but, thanks to Cardano the money was sent to: Tweag.io, Well-Typed, FP Complete, … and a lot of cool Haskell stuff was made on their behalf ;)

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