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2025-09-18 08:22:41 gentauro joins (~gentauro@user/gentauro)
2025-09-18 08:23:21 <probie> I use org-roam, but if you don't want to use emacs, I hear good things about Obsidian
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2025-09-18 08:27:20 <dontdieych> tjakway: just one big markdown file ( folding and toc view good for fast navigation)
2025-09-18 08:28:08 <tjakway> dontdieych: one BIG markdown file ;) I have a lot of notes...
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2025-09-18 08:28:16 <tjakway> I actually do that right now for bash
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2025-09-18 08:28:34 <tjakway> too many snippets to trust formatting to word
2025-09-18 08:29:26 <tjakway> and every time I open it I despair of how much time I've spent writing bash
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2025-09-18 08:32:57 <defragger> i am using vimwiki for years now
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2025-09-18 08:38:09 <dontdieych> tjakway: I'm mostly do not organize things. just save it in ~/Downloads (or wherever) or somewhere. `ls -rt1`, `fd ... | fzf` or `ctrl-f` in gui file manager is good enough for me. :D
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2025-09-18 08:41:49 <dontdieych> 'Dolphin on ~/Downloads' is basically big wiki index to me
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2025-09-18 08:51:32 <jreicher> tjakway: what typically leads you to retrieve your notes? (Not write them.) I find the organisational principle is given by the retrieval cases, not by the recording cases.
2025-09-18 08:53:00 <tjakway> jreicher: it depends, because I have a lot of different kinds of notes: some are directly about projects, others are more knowledge but relevant to projects
2025-09-18 08:53:37 <tjakway> for example, I was taking notes today on designing C++ iterators (which is WAY more complicated than I thought)
2025-09-18 08:54:11 <tjakway> that goes in the "C++ Notes" file but I'm going to link it to my C++ project-specific notes where relevant
2025-09-18 08:54:13 <jreicher> Personally I would keep notes about a project IN the project.
2025-09-18 08:54:36 <tjakway> jreicher: I was thinking about that too, and LaTeX makes that much easier
2025-09-18 08:54:42 <tjakway> or markdown or what have you
2025-09-18 08:55:19 <jreicher> I find knowledge notes more difficult, because sometimes you've forgotten what you might want to look up.
2025-09-18 08:55:31 <jreicher> So that one is more about indexing I think.
2025-09-18 08:55:50 <jreicher> Some kind of list you can browse, and then jump to the detail.
2025-09-18 08:56:08 <tjakway> Yes, and I'm very forgetful, so I'll admit I don't like the idea of my notes being scattered about so many different git repos
2025-09-18 08:56:17 <tjakway> maybe I could come up with a good submodule solution
2025-09-18 08:57:19 <tjakway> I actually used the fossil SCM as a personal ticketing system and it worked very well
2025-09-18 08:57:47 <tjakway> so I could make tickets for myself on things to do and link notes to them
2025-09-18 08:58:42 <tjakway> It had a very easy wiki syntax and D. Richard Hipp writes very good software
2025-09-18 08:59:21 <tjakway> I did think it was kind of amusing that I never actually used it as an SCM, just for its issue tracker
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2025-09-18 09:02:31 <haskellbridge> <maerwald> submodules?
2025-09-18 09:02:33 <haskellbridge> <maerwald> please
2025-09-18 09:02:40 <jreicher> Task lists and knowledge notes are a bit different though. I know org uses use it for both though. (I'm not an org user)
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2025-09-18 09:03:29 <tjakway> of course, I was just happy that I found something that worked well with my jury-rigged note system
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2025-09-18 09:03:39 <tjakway> for when I wanted task lists
2025-09-18 09:03:54 <tjakway> my firefox bookmarks are similarly a disaster
2025-09-18 09:04:07 <tjakway> of 8+ nested depths of folders on subjects
2025-09-18 09:04:40 <tjakway> I back it up daily because I'm aware I'm taking the system well past its reasonable breaking point
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2025-09-18 09:05:54 <tjakway> haskellbridge: I've always felt submodules were the afterthought of the git SCM system, the rest of it is pretty well put together and submodules... are not
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2025-09-18 09:11:37 <haskellbridge> <maerwald> why are you talking to haskellbrdige? xD
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2025-09-18 09:14:12 <jreicher> tjakway: you know there's quite a lot online about this kind of thing? If you search for "plaintext something-or-other" it turns up a fair bit. A lot of it references GTD and tools for it.
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2025-09-18 09:26:46 <haskellbridge> <sm> tjakway I used to use a lot of org outlines, now it's almost always markdown and obsidian
2025-09-18 09:28:51 <haskellbridge> <sm> where you keep your notes files matters a lot for organisation, accessibility, access control etc.
2025-09-18 09:30:19 <haskellbridge> <sm> core notes that aren't in public project repos are under ~/.notes and I sync some of those to mobile with obsidian sync
2025-09-18 09:30:31 <haskellbridge> <sm> * ~/notes
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2025-09-18 09:35:14 <tjakway> jreicher: OK, I will do that
2025-09-18 09:36:24 <haskellbridge> <sm> tjakway I used to use a lot of org outlines, now it's almost always markdown and obsidian (or when more convenient, the markdown modes in emacs in vs code)
2025-09-18 09:36:28 <tjakway> haskellbridge: that's something I've definitely realized in the past year
2025-09-18 09:37:04 <tjakway> word documents are already a nightmare to index and it's worse if there isn't a great system for them...
2025-09-18 09:37:17 <haskellbridge> <sm> I'm sm, the bridge is just carrying my words from the Other Side :)
2025-09-18 09:37:41 <tjakway> anyway, I've got to go, but thank you all so much!
2025-09-18 09:38:07 <tjakway> this was definitely better than trying to learn it all the hard way
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