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2025-09-11 09:51:02 <tomsmeding> % 1 == 2 && 3 == 4
2025-09-11 09:51:02 <yahb2> False
2025-09-11 09:51:07 <tomsmeding> % 1 == 3 == 4
2025-09-11 09:51:08 <yahb2> <interactive>:89:1: error: [GHC-88747] ; Precedence parsing error ; cannot mix ‘==’ [infix 4] and ‘==’ [infix 4] in the same infix expression
2025-09-11 09:51:17 <tomsmeding> this rule is currently false in haskell
2025-09-11 09:51:37 <tomsmeding> (if I'm reading you correctly)
2025-09-11 09:52:15 <tomsmeding> (this is not about types, while the types differ here you could define operators with these precedences where all the types are the same)
2025-09-11 09:52:22 <ski> so, more generally, you could say `o B p C q' (where `o' is prefix and `q' suffix), then also `o B q' and `o C q' (assuming the associativity of both `B' and `C' is below that of `q' resp. `o')
2025-09-11 09:53:40 <ski> mm yes, i should express that `p' is the intermediate operator, inbetween `o' and `q', here .. hmm
2025-09-11 09:56:06 <ski> the idea is that if you have an AST, left-leaning, or right-leaning, not requiring explicit grouping, then removing the intermediate node (and its side-subtree, not on the path), that should not suddenly cause you to require grouping being inserted, to cope with the two nodes/operators now being directly in contact to each other
2025-09-11 09:56:41 <ski> i suppose s/AST/CST/
2025-09-11 09:57:46 <ski> the point, is that if you have abstract precedences, then it would be too much work, to specify every possible interaction between pairs of operators
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2025-09-11 09:58:58 <ski> you'd want some notion of transitivity, to be able to infer that if `+' binds more loosely than `*', and `*' binds more loosely than `^', then `+' binds more loosely than `^'
2025-09-11 10:00:19 <ski> (so, the question is how to tractably, modularly, specify the partial order of precedence)
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2025-09-11 10:01:06 <ski> (btw, `if ... then ... else' would be a prefix operator, here, as well)
2025-09-11 10:01:15 <ski> (or, at least, could be)
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2025-09-11 10:04:16 <ski> oh .. right. i kinda started thinking about this, when reading some papers by Annika Aasa, about parsing. and also then looking a bit at Agda parsing
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2025-09-11 10:39:01 <ski> "Parsing as Deduction" by Fernando C. N. Pereira,David H. D. Warren in 1983-06-15 at <https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.3115/981311.981338>
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2025-09-11 10:39:08 <ski> "Metamorphosis Grammar" (by Alain Colmerauer in 1978-05 ?) at <https://www.site.uottawa.ca/~szpak/pub/P4P/P4P_03_Metamorphosis_grammars.pdf>
2025-09-11 10:39:19 <ski> "Concrete Syntax for Data Objects in Functional Languages" by Annika Aasa,Kent Petersson,Dan Synek in 1988-07 at <https://web.archive.org/web/20070207110810/http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~kentp/conc.ps>
2025-09-11 10:39:29 <ski> "Recursive descent parsing of user defined distfix operators" (Lic. th.) by Annika Aasa in 1989 (at ?)
2025-09-11 10:39:37 <ski> "Precedences in Specifications and Implementations of Programming Languages" by ibid in 1991 at <https://web.archive.org/web/20070701130745/http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~annika/plilp91.ps>,<https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/3-540-54444-5_98.pdf>
2025-09-11 10:39:44 <ski> "User Defined Syntax" (Ph. D. diss.) by ibid in 1992 at <https://web.archive.org/web/20050424185150/http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~annika/aasa-thesis.ps>
2025-09-11 10:39:50 <ski> "Precedences in Specifications and Implementations of Programming Languages" by ibid in 1995 at <https://web.archive.org/web/20070701130745/http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~annika/tcs95.ps>
2025-09-11 10:39:58 <ski> cf. <https://web.archive.org/web/20070701130745/http://www.cs.chalmers.se/~annika/>
2025-09-11 10:40:01 <ski> "Parsing Mixfix Operators" by Nils Anders Danielsson,Ulf Norell in 2008-09 at <https://www.cse.chalmers.se/~nad/publications/danielsson-norell-mixfix.pdf>
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