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2026-03-01 16:55:22 <geekosaur> sadly, it's grandfathered behavior. so is the same behavior for `-`
2026-03-01 16:55:45 <geekosaur> people hate regex for a reason ☺
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2026-03-01 18:26:40 <Milan_Vanca> I don't know they should be more simple than "programming languges". Maybe we are just not used to them. And maybe writing whole "program" in one line without indentation is the problem.
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2026-03-01 18:30:06 <haskellbridge> <sm> standard regular expressions are meant to be compact and powerful. (And their syntax predates most of us, so I cut them some slack.) You can always use a DSL or regex flavour that lets you write more verbosely.
2026-03-01 18:31:04 <haskellbridge> <sm> I don't know how a unix user could really hate regex
2026-03-01 18:31:45 <Milan_Vanca> Anyway here https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.12.0.0/docs/src/Text.ParserCombinators.ReadP.html#ReadP is ReadP defined with "newtype" but in documentation it shows "data" https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.12.0.0/docs/Text-ParserCombinators-ReadP.html#t:ReadP
2026-03-01 18:32:20 ski . o O ( "IrRegular Expressions" by foof at <https://synthcode.com/scheme/irregex/> )
2026-03-01 18:32:24 ski . o O ( "Regular Expression Matching Can Be Simple And Fast (but is slow in Java, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, ...)" by Russ Cox in 2007-01 at <https://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html> )
2026-03-01 18:32:38 <Milan_Vanca> sm: I don't think people hate regexes
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2026-03-01 18:32:48 <haskellbridge> <sm> https://www.regular-expressions.info is also excellent
2026-03-01 18:34:57 <EvanR> after seeing a lot of other nice looking languages, regex makes my head hurt
2026-03-01 18:35:05 <haskellbridge> <sm> s/also//
2026-03-01 18:35:26 <EvanR> they are (potentially) small so I can fit 2000 of them on my screen? no thanks!
2026-03-01 18:36:00 <haskellbridge> <sm> compactness can be a virtue
2026-03-01 18:36:02 <EvanR> they also have come up less since I learned about parser combinators
2026-03-01 18:36:22 <EvanR> something might be parsable using an extension to regex... but why
2026-03-01 18:36:26 <Milan_Vanca> EvanR: Hehe :D vim can also soft linewrap
2026-03-01 18:37:13 <EvanR> APL code has the same compaction, it's so small it occupies the top left 2% of my screen
2026-03-01 18:37:23 <EvanR> virtuous!
2026-03-01 18:37:52 <Milan_Vanca> Imagine binary encoded as RGB bitmap...
2026-03-01 18:37:55 <haskellbridge> <sm> C can too! https://needleful.net/blog/2024/01/arthur_whitney.html :)
2026-03-01 18:38:31 <EvanR> Milan_Vanca, a fun exercise in SDL or raylib etc
2026-03-01 18:38:47 <haskellbridge> <sm> and of course so can Haskell https://github.com/haskell-game/tiny-games-hs
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2026-03-01 18:42:23 <EvanR> the tiny game jam was kind of amazing
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2026-03-01 18:47:31 <monochrom> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/regex-applicative has nicer syntax. (You just use Alternative operators!)
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