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2025-12-31 17:06:30 <Noinia> Hmm I have some code that compiles into '<<<loop>>>' when optimziations are enabled, but seems to compile fine with -O0. Any suggestions for debugging further where the exact issue is?
2025-12-31 17:10:08 <c_wraith> that only sounds possible when a RULE is firing and the replacement it's performing is broken
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2025-12-31 17:17:32 <Noinia> hmm, I don't have any RULES defined in my project
2025-12-31 17:18:12 <Noinia> I'm wondering if this is a GHC bug; but I'm also somewhat stuck minimizing my code further
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2025-12-31 17:30:38 <gentauro> sm: sometimes I wished there was only one "good" tool (like `dune` for OCaml) and everybody used that. It would make things so much easier.
2025-12-31 17:30:54 <gentauro> However, I get the point of "competition" to ensure neither tool just lay back.
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2025-12-31 17:36:56 <geekosaur> it's also fairly limiting, though. in corporate development in particular, the stack model is likely better because it enforces preferred/known compatible versions of things
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2025-12-31 17:40:09 <geekosaur> (that said, if creating a "private hackage" were easier, cabal would probably work fairly well in that space as well)
2025-12-31 17:40:47 <geekosaur> but I suspect building one tool that supported both models well would produce something too complicated for most people
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2025-12-31 18:08:07 <haskellbridge> <sm> gentauro of course, we'd probably all like to have [had] a simpler haskell tools story
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2025-12-31 19:25:27 <monochrom> In principle, two programs for two models is equivalent to one program with two sets of options. The latter cannot be said to be simpler.
2025-12-31 19:26:56 <EvanR> do two things and switch between them with options and do it well
2025-12-31 19:27:30 <EvanR> is not the unix philosophy as stated but seems to defacto be the philosophy
2025-12-31 19:31:57 <monochrom> Maybe it's the Multics philosophy. >:)

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