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2026-04-23 08:14:47 <haskellbridge> <ozkutuk> dibblego: there is also ReifiedPrism' if you prefer using that
2026-04-23 08:15:18 <dibblego> I do, but that is back to a type-alias
2026-04-23 08:16:41 <haskellbridge> <ozkutuk> yes, but it is an alias for ReifiedPrism and not the underlying optic type, so in a sense it is still opaque
2026-04-23 08:16:48 <haskellbridge> <ozkutuk> or maybe I misunderstood your use case
2026-04-23 08:23:13 <dibblego> I want a value that can use in a position (p :: * -> * -> *) and type-aliases cannot appear there
2026-04-23 08:25:36 <haskellbridge> <ozkutuk> in that case I think wrapping with a newtype of your own is your only choice
2026-04-23 08:40:42 <dibblego> ok thanks
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2026-04-23 09:01:10 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> hey, is servant dead? their hackage page now has brokne links :(
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2026-04-23 09:13:39 <mauke> https://docs.servant.dev/en/0.20.3.0/tutorial/index.html ?
2026-04-23 09:16:39 <merijn> Liamzee which broken links?
2026-04-23 09:17:03 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> https://docs.servant.dev/en/stable/tutorial/index.html
2026-04-23 09:17:07 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant-server
2026-04-23 09:17:53 <merijn> Liamzee: I mean, the hackage page only updates when they publish a new version (assuming they remember to check that link)
2026-04-23 09:19:16 <gentauro> % lenght (Just [])
2026-04-23 09:19:16 <yahb2> <interactive>:37:1: error: [GHC-88464] ; Variable not in scope: lenght :: Maybe [a0] -> t ; Suggested fix: Perhaps use ‘length’ (imported from Prelude)
2026-04-23 09:19:26 <gentauro> % length (Just [])
2026-04-23 09:19:26 <yahb2> 1
2026-04-23 09:19:33 <gentauro> % length (Just [1])
2026-04-23 09:19:33 <yahb2> 1
2026-04-23 09:19:37 <gentauro> % length (Just [])
2026-04-23 09:19:37 <yahb2> 1
2026-04-23 09:19:44 <gentauro> Huh?
2026-04-23 09:20:15 <mauke> % length Nothing
2026-04-23 09:20:15 <yahb2> 0
2026-04-23 09:20:38 <mauke> Maybe = a list of at most one element
2026-04-23 09:20:41 <humasect> vector[1] == scalar ?
2026-04-23 09:20:49 <humasect> oh
2026-04-23 09:21:04 <humasect> % length Nothing
2026-04-23 09:21:04 <yahb2> 0
2026-04-23 09:21:16 <gentauro> mauke: lucky to have the LSP point that out :o
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2026-04-23 09:29:20 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> merijn, sorry
2026-04-23 09:29:28 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> i'm sort of depressed, AI is going to eat everything
2026-04-23 09:29:40 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> i lost my faith
2026-04-23 09:32:28 <merijn> I'm still not convinced :p
2026-04-23 09:33:53 <merijn> Uptime of everyone is in the dumps since the AI hype in silicon valley, Windows is a dumpster fire, seems a direct correlation between things going to shit and AI usage
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2026-04-23 09:41:12 <haskellbridge> <Liamzee> Windows is dying, albeit quite slowly
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2026-04-23 09:58:35 <merijn> I mean, adoption of 11 is in the dumps and with 12 being "a proper agentic OS" I suspsect that's not gonna be better :P
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2026-04-23 10:50:25 <gentauro> Liamzee: «Windows is dying» and that's a good thing (Y)
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2026-04-23 10:51:01 <gentauro> meanwhile in EUrope (specifically France) -> https://github.com/cloud-gouv/securix
2026-04-23 10:51:22 gentauro I aint even mad. OS built on lambdas? What's not to like
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