Logs: liberachat/#haskell
| 2021-08-03 03:55:25 | <lechner> | sm: it's a desparate move. i need something unconventional and hip |
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| 2021-08-03 03:56:29 | <sm> | do you want to maintain it yourself, or have the community maintain it ? |
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| 2021-08-03 03:58:42 | <Axman6> | what's that static site generator? ... I use it for my website |
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| 2021-08-03 03:59:05 | <geekosaur> | hakyll? |
| 2021-08-03 03:59:10 | <Axman6> | that's the one |
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| 2021-08-03 04:03:01 | <lechner> | sm: everything at debian is team based, but many jump starts and discontinuous advances are implemented by determined individuals. what do you recommend? |
| 2021-08-03 04:03:23 | <sm> | mdbook |
| 2021-08-03 04:03:42 | <lechner> | why did you ask? |
| 2021-08-03 04:03:53 | <dsal> | It's worth being aware of pandoc (which Axman6 mentioned earlier) |
| 2021-08-03 04:04:00 | <sm> | if you're maintaining it yourself, then you have more choices |
| 2021-08-03 04:04:13 | <sm> | like org mode |
| 2021-08-03 04:04:43 | <Axman6> | pandoc is one of those tools that is pretty well known outside the Hashekk world, because it's so bloody useful |
| 2021-08-03 04:05:27 | <sm> | pandoc is awesome, but doesn't provide as much structure for a site, which you'll have to add and maintain yourself |
| 2021-08-03 04:05:45 | <sm> | like a site TOC sidebar |
| 2021-08-03 04:05:46 | <Axman6> | and Hakyll is built on top of it |
| 2021-08-03 04:06:02 | <Axman6> | right, that's why you use hakyll |
| 2021-08-03 04:06:06 | <sm> | also, I hate to say it but having to build pandoc or hakyll is a liability |
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| 2021-08-03 04:07:24 | <lechner> | both are in debian already |
| 2021-08-03 04:07:42 | <sm> | you'll want features from newer versions |
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| 2021-08-03 04:12:11 | <sm> | (I've used a number of these (org, pandoc, hakyll, sphinx, mdbook) for extended periods, so I have Opinions - I'm interested to hear what works for you) |
| 2021-08-03 04:13:14 | <lechner> | i need a splash of cool |
| 2021-08-03 04:14:18 | <euouae> | There's also Yesod |
| 2021-08-03 04:14:33 | <lechner> | sm: what do you use it for, and how many pages? |
| 2021-08-03 04:14:36 | <Axman6> | yesod doesn't do static sites |
| 2021-08-03 04:14:50 | <euouae> | Axman6: Can it not? |
| 2021-08-03 04:15:07 | <Axman6> | I would be very surprised if it made sense to use it for that |
| 2021-08-03 04:15:07 | <lechner> | euouae: i use that for full-fledged, performant web apps |
| 2021-08-03 04:15:11 | <sm> | lechner: FOSS sites like hledger.org and plaintextaccounting.org mostly, other doc sites in the past |
| 2021-08-03 04:15:35 | <euouae> | lechner: Oh... okay :) Good for you. I loved yesod and wanted to try it out one day for some idea that I had |
| 2021-08-03 04:16:31 | <Axman6> | I did not love yesod but I haven't used it for years. Give me Servant any day though |
| 2021-08-03 04:16:37 | <Axman6> | IHP looks cool too |
| 2021-08-03 04:17:25 | <sm> | (hledger.org is ~100 pages) |
| 2021-08-03 04:18:14 | <euouae> | Axman6: I've heard of servant. I know it has a steep learning curve though and I'm not an expert so |
| 2021-08-03 04:18:27 | <sm> | lechner, interestingly I believe wiki.debian.org before moinmoin used my wiki engine, Zwiki |
| 2021-08-03 04:18:34 | <Axman6> | it's not too hard imo, but the type errors can get a bit hard to read |
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| 2021-08-03 04:21:40 | <Axman6> | and all Servant cares about is web stuff, it doesn't care about databases or anything |
| 2021-08-03 04:23:50 | <lechner> | Axman6 euouae: for web front end work, you may find this older post interesting https://chrisdone.com/posts/clientside-programming-haskell/ |
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| 2021-08-03 04:28:35 | <euouae> | so purescript is the DSL to write javascript in and halogen is for the frontend? |
| 2021-08-03 04:28:46 | <euouae> | It seems to conclude with purescript + halogen as a good idea |
| 2021-08-03 04:29:04 | <lechner> | euouae: it's three years old |
| 2021-08-03 04:29:05 | <Axman6> | I think calling purescript a DSL is pretty unfair to it |
| 2021-08-03 04:29:32 | <euouae> | You're right, it's not, it's a compiled language |
| 2021-08-03 04:30:41 | <lechner> | sm: they sure did! |
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| 2021-08-03 04:31:27 | <lechner> | sm: https://wiki.debian.org/ZWiki |
| 2021-08-03 04:32:49 | <sm> | lechner: nice! that was my main project before falling into the Haskellverse. Sad that the site died just weeks before this :) |
| 2021-08-03 04:33:31 | <lechner> | sm: zwiki.org? |
| 2021-08-03 04:33:36 | <sm> | yup |
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| 2021-08-03 04:34:33 | <sm> | speaking of wikis, and steering this back to haskell, we didn't mention gitit. darcs.net uses it |
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| 2021-08-03 04:35:58 | <sm> | recommended for you ? no, it'll be just another niche wiki that has to be restarted randomly and will be a huge burden to build |
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| 2021-08-03 04:38:02 | <lechner> | sm: how does offering so many formats work out for wikis in the long run? |
| 2021-08-03 04:38:16 | <sm> | not well I think |
| 2021-08-03 04:38:33 | <sm> | keep it simple. It's pretty much markdown today |
| 2021-08-03 04:38:59 | <euouae> | wikipedia has the magic formula |
| 2021-08-03 04:39:34 | <sm> | you could use mediawiki, it's certainly powerful. But a ton of work |
| 2021-08-03 04:39:54 | <sm> | still off topic here, sorry |
| 2021-08-03 04:40:44 | <sm> | how did this come up in #haskell anyway ? oh yes, you pinged me about that pandoc moinmoin reader |
| 2021-08-03 04:40:59 | <sm> | I assume you'll use that for the first pass at converting content to whatever |
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| 2021-08-03 04:44:51 | <lechner> | yeah, sorry to everyone. i also got sidetracked. it's so easy to feel at home here. what a great channel! |
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