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2021-06-29 08:08:30 <[exa]> delYsid: AFAIK Word64 should work on 32b platforms, it's just not going to be really fast
2021-06-29 08:08:50 <merijn> delYsid: The implementation fo Word32/64/etc. are platform dependent
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2021-06-29 08:10:19 <kuribas> maerwald: I mean, what is recommended, not what is enforced by hackage.
2021-06-29 08:10:37 <merijn> kuribas: There's always those people
2021-06-29 08:10:53 <merijn> kuribas: "this gets in the way of what I want right now, so I'm gonna remove it"
2021-06-29 08:11:14 <merijn> kuribas: I once had a PR from someone who marked all my foreign imports as "unsafe", because he read a blog that said it was faster
2021-06-29 08:11:23 <kuribas> merijn: yeah, they could just like... move the upper bound?
2021-06-29 08:11:58 <kuribas> merijn: as if you didn't think about it...
2021-06-29 08:12:04 <merijn> kuribas: Probably a stack user who is like "but I don't wanna deal with this, so I'm gonna make *everyone else* deal with it"
2021-06-29 08:12:13 <delYsid> merijn: I'd like to use Word64# instead of Word64 to improve performance, since my Word64 really never needs to be lazy...
2021-06-29 08:12:17 <kuribas> hehe, that's *exactly* what he said :)
2021-06-29 08:12:37 <merijn> kuribas: My approach to people like that is "fuck 'em"
2021-06-29 08:12:43 <delYsid> But reading though GHC.Word, it looks like that might only work on certain platforms?
2021-06-29 08:12:55 <[exa]> delYsid: not sure you'll gain much performance by that, just like, decrease portability
2021-06-29 08:13:05 <merijn> I don't think it will
2021-06-29 08:13:12 <merijn> it should work on all platforms
2021-06-29 08:13:18 <merijn> You can't use any of the Num functions, though
2021-06-29 08:14:12 <merijn> delYsid: GHC already has optimisations to make numeric value strict of it detects them being used in tight loops
2021-06-29 08:14:15 → hegstal joins (~hegstal@2a02:c7f:7604:8a00:cf3c:697d:723b:8aac)
2021-06-29 08:14:50 <[exa]> delYsid: that said, if you're trying to optimize this stuff, you really really should have a look at the generated code to see where the bottleneck is
2021-06-29 08:16:01 <delYsid> [exa]: Good point. that would be stg, right?
2021-06-29 08:16:05 <[exa]> from what I've seen, it's quite unlikely to be in the numbers, unless your usecase is about running 1 word64-specific instruction in a tight loop
2021-06-29 08:16:09 <merijn> delYsid: Core, probably
2021-06-29 08:16:10 <kuribas> merijn: quote "When you're using a resolver like Stackage, you already know all the packages build with each other. If your package builds too, then it probably works. I've found that this tends to be more future-proof and avoids the need to constantly bump the bounds to keep things working."
2021-06-29 08:16:31 <merijn> kuribas: Yeah, don't do that
2021-06-29 08:16:42 <delYsid> [exa]: Well, in the end, I indeed only do xor on these words...
2021-06-29 08:16:46 <[exa]> delYsid: good question. Core is pretty readable, Stg and c-- can still be "parsed" and you can see if there's some wrapping that doesn't make sense
2021-06-29 08:17:12 <merijn> kuribas: It's in fact, less future proof, because future version of *any* of your dependencies can release a breaking change in the future, retro-actively breaking all the old versions
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2021-06-29 08:17:29 <merijn> delYsid: Also, have you heard of our lord and saviour speedscope?
2021-06-29 08:17:36 <[exa]> if it's slow, I'd guess it's doing some allocation in the tight loop, which should be avoidable
2021-06-29 08:17:38 <kuribas> merijn: didn't bytestring make breaking changes?
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