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2021-06-18 03:58:10 <qrpnxz> wait hold on a moment
2021-06-18 03:58:24 <monochrom> Err nevermind P admits a pure.
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2021-06-18 04:00:11 <qrpnxz> ok i think i'm getting this now i'm gonna ruminate more
2021-06-18 04:00:25 <qrpnxz> thanks for explanation
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2021-06-18 04:09:26 <qrpnxz> ok haskell burn my brain enough for today geez
2021-06-18 04:10:44 <Axman6> There are things which are functors which aren't Haskell functors, it's not a one to one mapping
2021-06-18 04:10:53 <Axman6> but I think all thisngs which are Functors are functors
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2021-06-18 04:12:31 <c_wraith> yeah, that's right.
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2021-06-18 04:19:26 <c_wraith> ugh. Why does the Applicative instance for (MaybeT f) in transformers require f to be a Monad? :(
2021-06-18 04:20:33 <Axman6> what's the source for its implementation?
2021-06-18 04:20:42 <Axman6> that is surprising to me too though
2021-06-18 04:21:12 <c_wraith> the <*> implementation uses do notation and binds the arguments sequentially
2021-06-18 04:21:20 <Axman6> >_<
2021-06-18 04:22:03 <Axman6> hmm, I guess you do need Monad so you don't execute the second argument
2021-06-18 04:22:18 <Axman6> so it's short circuiting
2021-06-18 04:22:20 <c_wraith> Oh, right.
2021-06-18 04:22:23 <c_wraith> That is a requirement
2021-06-18 04:22:30 <c_wraith> Ok, I understand now.
2021-06-18 04:22:38 <c_wraith> I guess I'm creating my own type
2021-06-18 04:22:41 <Axman6> it is off that it has (Functor m, Monad m) though
2021-06-18 04:22:46 <monochrom> It needs at least Selective.
2021-06-18 04:22:48 <Axman6> odd*
2021-06-18 04:23:01 <c_wraith> I think that's historical baggage from pre-AMP
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