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| 2025-10-13 04:27:02 | <EvanR> | mauke, 😱 |
| 2025-10-13 04:27:10 | <EvanR> | ok |
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| 2025-10-13 07:51:25 | <dminuoso> | L29Ah: I have to ask. "The openssl trainwreck" compared to self-rolled cryptographic primitives in crypton? |
| 2025-10-13 07:55:25 | <dminuoso> | Is crypton fully implemented with all kinds of side-channel attacks in mind? Timing analysis, cache poisining attacks, power/EM attacks, speculative execution analysis, fault injection, entropy failure, misuse of CRT, missing modular invertibility checks, non-constant-time scalar multiplications within primitives, deterministic blinding |
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| 2025-10-13 07:55:44 | <dminuoso> | Honestly, the list of all the various things you can screw up when doing cryptographic primitives is so long |
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| 2025-10-13 07:56:50 | <dminuoso> | But given that crypton is not written in just primops but highlevel haskell, it means that any guarantee that you might think you get after you audit the code depends on precisely a) the GHC version chosen and b) the compiler flags. |
| 2025-10-13 07:57:07 | <dminuoso> | And that's assuming a full cryptographic audit even occured. |
| 2025-10-13 08:00:28 | <dminuoso> | crypton just is not something you should use if you want to rely on secure and robust cryptography. |
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