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2025-10-03 04:49:25 <ski> Erlang basically gets "single assignment" ("instantiation") from Prolog (which is also why defining a variable in each branch makes it in scope after, like e.g. `if 2 > 3 -> X = 2 ; true -> X = 3 end,X * X', is a thing). the immutability of data structure values (including function values referencing non-local variables) helps with transparently sharing (same node) or cloning (different node) values when
2025-10-03 04:49:31 <ski> sending messages between processes
2025-10-03 04:53:11 <jreicher> I understand the positives of it, but I don't understand why they would do that while retaining the negatives of side-effects in functions.
2025-10-03 04:54:24 <ski> main focus was concurreny and distribution, with fault-tolerance (and fail-fast)
2025-10-03 04:56:35 <jreicher> So the assumption is the concurrency-safety of side effects would be provided in other ways? I think I'm starting to understand...
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2025-10-03 04:59:46 <ski> it's message-passing concurrency, as opposed to shared-memory concurrency (which would be hard to do, with transparent distribution)
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