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2026-04-10 07:13:18 <gentauro> if you use the `DuplicateRecordFields` language pragma (duplicate record fields). How do you specify you want to use `Foo { foo :: String }` from `FooBar { foo :: String, bar :: String}`?
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2026-04-10 08:34:13 <tomsmeding> gentauro: https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/exts/duplicate_record_fields.html#extension-DuplicateRecordFields
2026-04-10 08:34:24 <tomsmeding> I think the part until 6.5.5.1 answers your question
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2026-04-10 09:01:38 <Milan_Vanca> Do I understand that correctly that there is difference between exporting module M (S(S, x)) where .. and module M (S(S), x) where
2026-04-10 09:02:36 <Milan_Vanca> data S = S {x :: Int}
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2026-04-10 09:10:04 <Milan_Vanca> Anyway I want to ask different question. I have noticed many libs (alost all) on hackage to specify upper bound for its dependencies. This article https://iscinumpy.dev/post/bound-version-constraints/ says libs should not do that. Do you think information in that article is relevant for haskell packages?
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2026-04-10 09:12:23 <Milan_Vanca> I don't want to start flame war I am asking in good faith. Like now I just manually "allow-newer" for every dependency but it tiresome
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2026-04-10 09:15:16 <Milan_Vanca> To my knowledge cabal/ghc too uses "flat" structure of dependencies same as python, so arguments should be applicable.
2026-04-10 09:19:03 <merijn> I don't know what "flt structure oif dependencies" means
2026-04-10 09:19:32 <merijn> Milan_Vanca: Python's ecosystem is constantly broken, so I would ignore anything they say
2026-04-10 09:19:39 <tomsmeding> from the tldr in that article:
2026-04-10 09:19:42 <tomsmeding> > Anyone can fix a missing cap, but users cannot fix an over restrictive cap
2026-04-10 09:19:51 <merijn> They keep reinventing their build tools every year too, each time with the same problems
2026-04-10 09:19:51 <tomsmeding> well, no
2026-04-10 09:20:25 <tomsmeding> fixing a missing cap requires forking the project, whereas fixing an over-restrictive cap can be done with allow-newer or by asking for a non-maintainer update of the metadata on hackagte
2026-04-10 09:20:29 <merijn> Milan_Vanca: cabal is fundamentally different from python's dependencies management approach
2026-04-10 09:20:55 <merijn> Milan_Vanca: Have you read the PVP?
2026-04-10 09:21:14 <merijn> Milan_Vanca: https://pvp.haskell.org
2026-04-10 09:22:18 <Milan_Vanca> merijn: :D Good point I think
2026-04-10 09:22:26 <merijn> Not to mention in python everything's just dictionaries of strings to values and no guarantees of what fields exist. Which means that using the wrong version very often kinda seems to work, if you're lucky
2026-04-10 09:23:15 <Milan_Vanca> merijn: Not yet thank you for link
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