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2021-06-22 01:17:13 <qrpnxz> how do i evaluate a value in ghci without printing it, trying to get an effect to occur but it starts to cry if it can't print it
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2021-06-22 01:18:08 <geekosaur> action >> return () -- ?
2021-06-22 01:18:15 <Axman6> :t void . evaluate
2021-06-22 01:18:17 <lambdabot> a -> IO ()
2021-06-22 01:18:40 <Axman6> @hoogle evaluate
2021-06-22 01:18:41 <lambdabot> Control.Exception evaluate :: a -> IO a
2021-06-22 01:18:41 <lambdabot> Control.Exception.Base evaluate :: a -> IO a
2021-06-22 01:18:41 <lambdabot> GHC.IO evaluate :: a -> IO a
2021-06-22 01:20:54 <qrpnxz> doesn't work
2021-06-22 01:21:22 <qrpnxz> had to pull the values out by hand, but them in a list and sequence
2021-06-22 01:21:36 <qrpnxz> *put
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2021-06-22 01:21:48 <Axman6> by "doesn't work" you mean "didn't provide enough information to get the answer you needed"
2021-06-22 01:22:23 <qrpnxz> nope, but if that's what you think alright
2021-06-22 01:23:20 <Axman6> I can guarantee you what I said does what you said you wanted, but if you need to vully evaluate everything in the entire structure then you might have said that instead. NFData is the class you're after, drom the deepseq package
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2021-06-22 01:27:47 <qrpnxz> i think IO won't happen unless it touches ghci at some point so it wasn't even an evaluation problem
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2021-06-22 01:29:53 <Axman6> right, you didn't say anythign about executing an IO vlaue, you said evaluate a value. all you need then in void yourExpression
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2021-06-22 01:30:02 <jackdk> Axman6++
2021-06-22 01:30:21 <Axman6> evaluation and executing are quite different things
2021-06-22 01:30:50 <qrpnxz> i did say i was trying to get an effect to occur
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2021-06-22 01:32:48 <geekosaur> which is why I suggested the other one, which does the effect but discards the value
2021-06-22 01:33:02 <geekosaur> so ghci won'[t complain about it
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2021-06-22 01:33:46 <qrpnxz> well it didn't do the effect
2021-06-22 01:33:52 <qrpnxz> hence why i said it didn't work
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2021-06-22 01:40:18 <qrpnxz> unless "the effect" is heating the room lol
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2021-06-22 01:43:19 <Axman6> well, evaluating an IO expression won't do very much, only executing it will. an IO a is a recipe which, when _executed_ returns an a. _evaluating_ it just forces it, if it is a think, to be evaluated enough to know that its constructor is the IO constructor
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