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2021-07-05 19:45:47 <dsal> chris-the-slurpa: "simulate private functions" is a weird way to say something. It's not simulating anything. Symbols may be exported for reuse in other modules, or stuck in a let or where clause and available in multiple places in a single function, or even unnamed and not reusable.
2021-07-05 19:46:01 <dsal> Depending on your goals, there are lots of ways to make functionality unavailable.
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2021-07-05 19:46:39 <c_wraith> in other words: you don't need a "private" keyword to make a symbol not usable outside of a particular context
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2021-07-05 19:47:38 <maerwald> that would be a neat GHC extension though
2021-07-05 19:47:54 <maerwald> I'd prefer it over explicit export lists
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2021-07-05 19:49:08 <chris-the-slurpa> dsal: ye thanks
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2021-07-05 20:12:24 <hseg> re the fact that SetContainer isn't derivable, just noticed that the default implementation of unions typechecks
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2021-07-05 20:12:46 <hseg> so in fact the problem is that DerivingVia tries to coerce *everything*
2021-07-05 20:12:55 <hseg> even when not coercing would've worked
2021-07-05 20:13:39 <hseg> (reminder: the problem with SetContainer (from mono-traversable) is that unions :: (MonoFoldable m, Element m ~ s) => m -> s
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2021-07-05 20:14:21 <hseg> and Coercible s s', while it can take care of (m -> s ~ m -> s'), cannot turn Element m ~ s into Element m ~ s'
2021-07-05 20:14:23 <hseg> )
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2021-07-05 20:23:15 <janus> Aaron Stump is talking about module systems on his podcast recently
2021-07-05 20:24:04 <janus> he already did one on the haskell system but he didn't really focus on the explicit export lists
2021-07-05 20:25:14 <janus> but maybe this is more of a software engineering concern and won't be interesting to an academic
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