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2021-06-12 21:55:19 <DigitalKiwi> .glirclogs/phrik/2021-01-12.log:[00:27:08] <phrik> Pastebin.com is swamped with advertisements and random captchas. Malware found on pastebin.com has resulted in it being blocked for some users. It injects CRLF line-endings. Please, use something else. Use something sane like https://gist.github.com https://bpaste.net http://ix.io https://paste.rs
2021-06-12 21:56:10 <DigitalKiwi> lol ix.io ;(
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2021-06-12 21:57:00 <DigitalKiwi> https://mostlyabsurd.com/files/2021-06-12-215632_1961x1033_scrot.png
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2021-06-12 21:59:03 <qrpnxz> lenses are pretty cool
2021-06-12 21:59:37 <DigitalKiwi> are you dibblego
2021-06-12 21:59:55 <qrpnxz> no i'm qrpnxz
2021-06-12 22:00:01 <Hecate> lenses are pretty cool indeed
2021-06-12 22:00:48 <DigitalKiwi> if dibblego ever gets bit by a sneke and i cannot ask him questions anymore i think i can replace him with a bot that says 'use lens'
2021-06-12 22:00:50 <qrpnxz> they are kind of like arrows but for records
2021-06-12 22:01:05 <qrpnxz> DigitalKiwi, hahaha
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2021-06-12 22:01:40 <DigitalKiwi> dibblego: <3
2021-06-12 22:01:56 <aerkenemesis> the dependency list is a bit discouraging though :S
2021-06-12 22:02:09 <geekosaur> there's always microlens
2021-06-12 22:02:50 <Rembane_> Or use other dependencies directly that lens depends on.
2021-06-12 22:03:10 <DigitalKiwi> you mean "code that someone else wrote so i don't have to"
2021-06-12 22:03:54 <maerwald> optics > lens
2021-06-12 22:04:10 <c_wraith> optics doesn't have any of the cool stuff
2021-06-12 22:04:56 <Rembane_> DigitalKiwi: That's the best code!
2021-06-12 22:05:02 <Rembane_> c_wraith: What cool stuff is optics lacking?
2021-06-12 22:06:01 <aerkenemesis> DigitalKiwi yes indeed, but haskell binaries tend to blow up astronomically in size so I usually pick libraries very carefully. "Many a mickle makes a little"
2021-06-12 22:06:15 <c_wraith> holesOf, everything in Control.Lens.Plated
2021-06-12 22:06:31 <maerwald> never heard of any of that
2021-06-12 22:06:39 <maerwald> so my guess is I don't need it
2021-06-12 22:06:49 <c_wraith> Or you just don't realize that you missed it
2021-06-12 22:07:00 <DigitalKiwi> https://mostlyabsurd.com/files/stackage-shell.nix gee i wonder why i never got this to work ;_;
2021-06-12 22:07:09 <maerwald> most of the time, I avoid both lens and optics... but when I can't, I use optics
2021-06-12 22:07:23 <Rembane_> c_wraith: Cool, I've got some reading to do. :)
2021-06-12 22:08:00 <c_wraith> like... https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lens-5.0.1/docs/Control-Lens-Plated.html#v:cosmosOf cosmosOf is amazing for any sort of "apply this everywhere" transformation
2021-06-12 22:09:17 <c_wraith> err. it's good for extraction, not transformation. But still.
2021-06-12 22:10:10 <c_wraith> like, the Plated class is actually the least useful thing in Control.Lens.Plated :)
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2021-06-12 22:14:53 <DigitalKiwi> Rembane_: yes
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2021-06-12 23:16:46 <DigitalKiwi> wh- what
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2021-06-12 23:17:12 <geekosaur> "enjoy" some spam
2021-06-12 23:17:26 <geekosaur> they're still hitting libera, sadly
2021-06-12 23:17:39 <geekosaur> more of it shows up in -beginners than here for some reason
2021-06-12 23:18:24 <DigitalKiwi> couldn't they do something better like fixing PIA ;(
2021-06-12 23:20:18 <geekosaur> ?
2021-06-12 23:21:57 <janus> Private Internet Access (PIA) is the company that owns Freenode
2021-06-12 23:22:13 <DigitalKiwi> In 2010, he founded Private Internet Access (PIA),[2] a virtual private network service for anonymizing Internet traffic.
2021-06-12 23:22:40 <janus> but these spammers aren't promoting Freenode, so it makes little sense to assert that they have the power to "fix PIA"?
2021-06-12 23:22:54 <geekosaur> so you assime Andrew is behind the spam? when they're hitting freenode even harder --- and also other networks?
2021-06-12 23:24:09 <janus> i don't really understand what they stand to gain from it. but it is interesting that apparently the cost of spamming is so low that you don't need to make money doing it?
2021-06-12 23:24:34 <janus> or maybe it is just meant as a "proof of spamming" and could potentially be monetized ?
2021-06-12 23:24:57 <DigitalKiwi> i don't know that andrew is or is not responsible for the spam; but he very clearly destroyed freenode
2021-06-12 23:25:19 <geekosaur> oh, it's trivial these days. botnets are nearly free and these days all they're doing is keeping them warm
2021-06-12 23:26:38 <janus> but it just seems like they're targeting IRC specifically... does matrix have the same problem?
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2021-06-12 23:28:01 <janus> i guess matrix requires an account , but it just seems odd if that is the only thing stopping them
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2021-06-12 23:29:11 <DigitalKiwi> janus: ah this must be the proof of work i hear so much about ;D
2021-06-12 23:29:45 <DigitalKiwi> "see? (the botnet) it works!"
2021-06-12 23:29:56 <janus> right, i got coloured by that pattern of terminology, sorry for triggering you ;)
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2021-06-12 23:33:43 <janus> it does suggest a difficult hobby project: OCR-based spam filter :P
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2021-06-12 23:36:05 <Cale> If I were a young script kiddie with a botnet right now, I'd be using it to attempt routing table attacks on the p2p layer of cryptocurrency networks. Seems way more fun than messing with IRC, haha.
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