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| 2021-04-05 17:07:34 | <ADG1089> | does this mean i have to work on extGCD? https://paste.tomsmeding.com/Djg4VlBf |
| 2021-04-05 17:07:44 | <ADG1089> | I mena go? |
| 2021-04-05 17:09:44 | <geekosaur> | it means that's where you should start, but don't forget to check for (for example) thunk forcing at that point. (possibly adding strictness elsewhere will change things) |
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| 2021-04-05 17:10:51 | <ADG1089> | ok this is the updated one, I tried to use a recursive function instead of `until`: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/VMNoS91S |
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| 2021-04-05 17:11:42 | <ADG1089> | doesn't seem to be making much of a difference |
| 2021-04-05 17:11:53 | <ADG1089> | maybe there's some problem in my algorithm itself |
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| 2021-04-05 17:12:50 | <viluon> | Hello, I came across the Haskell tracer Hat (https://archives.haskell.org/projects.haskell.org/hat/), and I can't shake the feeling that it was created in a different climate, so to speak. It seems to have chosen source-to-source translation because it took compatibility with various Haskell implementations seriously and because compiler extensibility was worse than it is today. Am I right in these assumptions? Is it |
| 2021-04-05 17:12:50 | <viluon> | true that GHC has a monopoly on the Haskell compiler ecosystem nowadays (and was it any different back in the day)? |
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| 2021-04-05 17:17:05 | <shapr> | viluon: yes |
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| 2021-04-05 17:18:32 | <viluon> | shapr: do you know of any sources I could cite to back these claims up? |
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| 2021-04-05 17:21:26 | <shapr> | viluon: you could check CUFP archives for talks worrying that GHC was taking over as the only compiler |
| 2021-04-05 17:21:32 | <shapr> | might be ten years back though |
| 2021-04-05 17:21:49 | <viluon> | shapr: thanks! |
| 2021-04-05 17:22:04 | <shapr> | viluon: If I think of better sources, I'll tell you next time you visit? |
| 2021-04-05 17:22:14 | <shapr> | viluon: have you read the History of Haskell paper? |
| 2021-04-05 17:22:21 | <viluon> | shapr: that would be very kind of you. I have not! |
| 2021-04-05 17:22:21 | <shapr> | that'll get you lots of sources |
| 2021-04-05 17:22:32 | <viluon> | excellent, I'll check it out |
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| 2021-04-05 17:24:28 | <shapr> | viluon: you could also check the past activity of the various alternative Haskell compilers |
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| 2021-04-05 17:24:50 | <shapr> | if nothing else, you could plot release frequency, I'm sure you'd quickly find when GHC took over |
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| 2021-04-05 17:27:34 | <viluon> | hmm, that's a good idea, although it could be a little misleading. LHC (https://github.com/Lemmih/lhc) had some activity in 2019, but blog posts stopped in 2016 and judging from the README it was probably never anywhere close to a working implementation |
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| 2021-04-05 17:28:00 | <shapr> | viluon: jhc was working at one point, I think |
| 2021-04-05 17:28:18 | <shapr> | hugs has sadly fallen behind, it'd be nice if GHC could still be bootstrapped from C |
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| 2021-04-05 17:29:56 | <int-e> | jhc may be the bigger loss... being a fundamentally different implementation from GHC. (GRIN vs. STG) |
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| 2021-04-05 18:06:13 | <wz1000> | Helium is still being developed I think |
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| 2021-04-05 18:14:24 | <Tuplanolla> | If I have a particular set of packages in mind, how can I find the latest Stackage LTS that provides said packages? |
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| 2021-04-05 18:16:16 | <monochrom> | Does "set of packages" include "set of version constraints"? |
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| 2021-04-05 18:18:40 | <Tuplanolla> | Not this time. |
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| 2021-04-05 18:19:52 | <monochrom> | Then Stackage mostly grows monotonically in time, so newer LTS has a higher chance of success, so linear search from newest to oldest finishes in O(1) expected time. |
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| 2021-04-05 18:26:39 | <Tuplanolla> | That's clearly not true, since 12.26 and 16.31 have Hakyll, while 14.27 and 17.9 do not. |
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