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2021-04-05 17:07:34 <ADG1089> does this mean i have to work on extGCD? https://paste.tomsmeding.com/Djg4VlBf
2021-04-05 17:07:44 <ADG1089> I mena go?
2021-04-05 17:09:44 <geekosaur> it means that's where you should start, but don't forget to check for (for example) thunk forcing at that point. (possibly adding strictness elsewhere will change things)
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2021-04-05 17:10:51 <ADG1089> ok this is the updated one, I tried to use a recursive function instead of `until`: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/VMNoS91S
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2021-04-05 17:11:42 <ADG1089> doesn't seem to be making much of a difference
2021-04-05 17:11:53 <ADG1089> maybe there's some problem in my algorithm itself
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2021-04-05 17:12:50 <viluon> Hello, I came across the Haskell tracer Hat (https://archives.haskell.org/projects.haskell.org/hat/), and I can't shake the feeling that it was created in a different climate, so to speak. It seems to have chosen source-to-source translation because it took compatibility with various Haskell implementations seriously and because compiler extensibility was worse than it is today. Am I right in these assumptions? Is it
2021-04-05 17:12:50 <viluon> true that GHC has a monopoly on the Haskell compiler ecosystem nowadays (and was it any different back in the day)?
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2021-04-05 17:17:05 <shapr> viluon: yes
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2021-04-05 17:18:32 <viluon> shapr: do you know of any sources I could cite to back these claims up?
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2021-04-05 17:21:26 <shapr> viluon: you could check CUFP archives for talks worrying that GHC was taking over as the only compiler
2021-04-05 17:21:32 <shapr> might be ten years back though
2021-04-05 17:21:49 <viluon> shapr: thanks!
2021-04-05 17:22:04 <shapr> viluon: If I think of better sources, I'll tell you next time you visit?
2021-04-05 17:22:14 <shapr> viluon: have you read the History of Haskell paper?
2021-04-05 17:22:21 <viluon> shapr: that would be very kind of you. I have not!
2021-04-05 17:22:21 <shapr> that'll get you lots of sources
2021-04-05 17:22:32 <viluon> excellent, I'll check it out
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2021-04-05 17:24:28 <shapr> viluon: you could also check the past activity of the various alternative Haskell compilers
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2021-04-05 17:24:50 <shapr> if nothing else, you could plot release frequency, I'm sure you'd quickly find when GHC took over
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2021-04-05 17:27:34 <viluon> hmm, that's a good idea, although it could be a little misleading. LHC (https://github.com/Lemmih/lhc) had some activity in 2019, but blog posts stopped in 2016 and judging from the README it was probably never anywhere close to a working implementation
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2021-04-05 17:28:00 <shapr> viluon: jhc was working at one point, I think
2021-04-05 17:28:18 <shapr> hugs has sadly fallen behind, it'd be nice if GHC could still be bootstrapped from C
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2021-04-05 17:29:56 <int-e> jhc may be the bigger loss... being a fundamentally different implementation from GHC. (GRIN vs. STG)
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2021-04-05 18:06:13 <wz1000> Helium is still being developed I think
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2021-04-05 18:14:24 <Tuplanolla> If I have a particular set of packages in mind, how can I find the latest Stackage LTS that provides said packages?
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2021-04-05 18:16:16 <monochrom> Does "set of packages" include "set of version constraints"?
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2021-04-05 18:18:40 <Tuplanolla> Not this time.
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2021-04-05 18:19:52 <monochrom> Then Stackage mostly grows monotonically in time, so newer LTS has a higher chance of success, so linear search from newest to oldest finishes in O(1) expected time.
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2021-04-05 18:26:39 <Tuplanolla> That's clearly not true, since 12.26 and 16.31 have Hakyll, while 14.27 and 17.9 do not.
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