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2020-11-18 18:22:15 × chele quits (~chele@ip5b416ea2.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2020-11-18 18:22:22 <monochrom> Especially, a lot of FOSS software is intentionally forever in beta.
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2020-11-18 18:22:51 <texasmynsted> If only I could think of an app to write.
2020-11-18 18:22:51 <merijn> monochrom: My FOSS isn't in beta. It's "free as in puppies"
2020-11-18 18:23:05 <texasmynsted> If I could ever think of one I would do it.
2020-11-18 18:23:18 <geekosaur> does it breed like them, too?
2020-11-18 18:23:22 <merijn> monochrom: You can pick it up for free, but you'll have to pay to get it fixed ;)
2020-11-18 18:23:27 <monochrom> Namely, those who follows ESR's bazaar model. The bazaar model is euphemism for intentional perpetual beta.
2020-11-18 18:23:32 <dolio> Commercial software doesn't really seem that different from the inside.
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2020-11-18 18:23:56 <dolio> You only believe it's not still in beta because you bought it.
2020-11-18 18:24:08 <texasmynsted> The difference is in that you paid for it.
2020-11-18 18:24:10 <geekosaur> there is that, isn't there?
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2020-11-18 18:26:35 <dolio> I guess people pay for beta commercial software these days, too.
2020-11-18 18:26:43 <merijn> monochrom: You might like PHK's take: https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257 :)
2020-11-18 18:26:48 <monochrom> Right, I don't contend that.
2020-11-18 18:27:18 <dolio> At least video games. Lots of people buying perpetual beta games. :)
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2020-11-18 18:29:00 <texasmynsted> I buy books from manning that are not even to alpha stage yet
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2020-11-18 18:38:00 <maerwald> video games is a brutal industry anyway
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2020-11-18 18:38:36 <texasmynsted> video game industry is a gold rush
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2020-11-18 18:42:37 <idnar> hekkaidekapus: aha
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2020-11-18 18:45:03 <hekkaidekapus> idnar: Are you parsing stuff? I’m wondering whether you are actually after Data.Fixed.
2020-11-18 18:46:58 <idnar> hekkaidekapus: JSON numbers, kinda
2020-11-18 18:47:21 <hekkaidekapus> Parsing it is, then.
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2020-11-18 18:51:00 <hekkaidekapus> @hackage scientific-notation <== idnar: Check out that.
2020-11-18 18:51:00 <lambdabot> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/scientific-notation <== idnar: Check out that.
2020-11-18 18:51:05 <idnar> hekkaidekapus: I'm implementing this madness: https://docs.kraken.com/websockets/#book-checksum
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2020-11-18 18:52:38 <idnar> hekkaidekapus: ooh this is handy
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2020-11-18 18:55:22 <idnar> hekkaidekapus: thanks!
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2020-11-18 18:56:20 <dminuoso> idnar: You could also look at https://hackage.haskell.org/package/scientific-0.3.6.2/docs/Data-Scientific.html which is what aeson uses
2020-11-18 18:56:30 <hekkaidekapus> You’re welcome. That Kraken thing has speed requirements. You will appreciate this line: “The scientific-notation parser outperforms the scientific parser that ships with aeson by a factor of five on small numbers.”
2020-11-18 18:56:59 <hekkaidekapus> dminuoso: Raced :) ^^^
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2020-11-18 19:02:41 <idnar> hekkaidekapus: yeah, for what I'm doing, it's very useful to have a fast parse to something I can do trivial ops on; I need a more complicated conversion after that, but the converted values often go unused so I don't have to pay
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2020-11-18 19:03:56 <idnar> dminuoso: I am currently parsing to that :)
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2020-11-18 19:07:20 <idnar> hekkaidekapus: blah, I could do with an Ord instance though
2020-11-18 19:08:47 <hekkaidekapus> The parsed numbers are not meant to be used as such. Refer to the ‘Consume’ section of haddocks instead.
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2020-11-18 19:23:36 <mastarija> I'm having some trouble writing instances for generics.
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2020-11-18 19:23:56 <mastarija> I have these two instances
2020-11-18 19:23:58 <mastarija> instance {-# OVERLAPPABLE #-} EncOpaque' v => EncOpaque' ( S1 s v ) where
2020-11-18 19:24:05 <mastarija> instance EncOpaque' v => EncOpaque' ( S1 ('MetaSel ( 'Just f ) x y z ) v ) where
2020-11-18 19:24:31 <mastarija> problem is that in the second I want to get name of the field 'f'
2020-11-18 19:24:43 <mastarija> for that I have to use Selector class
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