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2020-10-11 19:08:26 <dolio> Is it?
2020-10-11 19:08:38 <nihilazo> I've decided on a project to do for my first thing in haskell but it's maybe not something haskell is suited to particularly
2020-10-11 19:08:51 <nihilazo> because just learning is interesting but also kinda pointless if you then do nothing
2020-10-11 19:09:19 <avdb> yushyin: What do you mean by dull?
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2020-10-11 19:12:41 <monochrom> It's a very vague question.
2020-10-11 19:13:13 <avdb> It is, maybe I should just schedule an hour every day instead of being hopeless.
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2020-10-11 19:13:25 <monochrom> It also sounds like a counsellor is most suitable for this.
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2020-10-11 19:25:39 <maerwald> programming is for fellows with very hight frustration tolerance
2020-10-11 19:26:26 <monochrom> In my case it's the opposite. Social interaction is the highly frustrating one.
2020-10-11 19:27:08 <monochrom> People are moody. People have subtexts. People have secret rules. People expect me to second-guess them. People never say what they mean.
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2020-10-11 19:27:35 <monochrom> Programming has none of that, and I decided to have none of that.
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2020-10-11 19:28:04 <maerwald> which begs the question... why do we seek frustration?
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2020-10-11 19:28:27 <ptrcmd> your computer might become moody one day and decide to stop working xD
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2020-10-11 19:29:11 <monochrom> Then again, it was also a time when computers were simple, e.g., Apple II. Today's Windows look like moody and full of hidden rules, too.
2020-10-11 19:29:12 <MarcelineVQ> ptrcmd: a lot of very smart people are working very hard to achieve just that
2020-10-11 19:30:06 <monochrom> I imagine that programming is frustrating to social people because programming is against "do what I mean not what I said".
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2020-10-11 19:30:52 <monochrom> whereas programming is natural to me because it does what I said and I do what it said. What meaning?
2020-10-11 19:31:36 <Zetagon> I can be pretty frustrated with computers not doing what I mean a times
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2020-10-11 19:32:55 <Zetagon> I had a computer lab where I was going to write some routing tables, and missed to type one dot in an ip address and the route program just swallowed it whole
2020-10-11 19:33:01 <MarcelineVQ> semantic death approaches in the form of a great purple cloud, sparks within ignite the surface in brilliant flashes that draw in lowly insects, soon to be consumed and added to the cloud. Would you like to file a git issue about the cloud's color?
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2020-10-11 19:33:42 <monochrom> haha
2020-10-11 19:33:46 ski idly recalls programs which would only repond with `?', if they detected something they didn't understand, in user input
2020-10-11 19:34:13 <MarcelineVQ> ski: I don't know anything about 'eat the apple'
2020-10-11 19:35:42 <ski> like the `?' responses at <http://cs.wellesley.edu/~cs249/Resources/ed_is_the_standard_text_editor.html>
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2020-10-11 19:36:11 <ski> (although, in my case, it was a monitor/disassembler)
2020-10-11 19:38:30 <maerwald> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/vty-5.31/docs/Graphics-Vty-Attributes.html#v:blink this doesn't do anything for me
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2020-10-11 19:40:08 <maerwald> I mean, not in an asthetics sense... but in a practical one
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2020-10-11 19:48:15 <maerwald> why no one invents a new terminal?
2020-10-11 19:48:53 <Uniaika> maerwald: non-VT100 terminal?
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2020-10-11 20:06:35 <maerwald> a clean set of standards
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2020-10-11 20:07:38 <maerwald> should only take 3 lifetimes to convince everyone
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