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2021-03-26 18:50:42 <ukari> I noticed that fused-effects has some exception related functions, is there any benefit to do the error processing in a effect framework?
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2021-03-26 19:54:46 hackage scroll-list 1.0.0.0 - This package provides functions for relocate an item within a list. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/scroll-list-1.0.0.0 (fesanmar)
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2021-03-26 19:57:34 <NemesisD> what is the purpose of the (->) r instance of Monad?
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2021-03-26 19:58:48 <geekosaur> showing off >.>
2021-03-26 19:59:06 <geekosaur> it's a Reader without the newtype
2021-03-26 19:59:41 <maerwald> there was a quickcheck example somewhere in haddock accidentially using that instance and thus creating a bug
2021-03-26 20:00:13 <maerwald> so much for type safety :p
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2021-03-26 20:00:59 <NemesisD> i'm trying to compose a bunch of functions sequentially in monad syntax and my code actually compiled with that instance but basically only used the last line of the monad. i'm wondering if there's a better way
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2021-03-26 20:03:39 <geekosaur> sounds like you used it wrong, you want >>= not >>
2021-03-26 20:05:14 <NemesisD> yeah. i guess what i'm looking for is a way to sequentially compose several A -> A in monad syntax in a way that the monad passes in the incremental result to each action in the monad
2021-03-26 20:06:52 <NemesisD> foo, bar :: A -> A; baz :: A -> A; baz = do foo; if cond then bar else id
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2021-03-26 20:08:00 <geekosaur> that's what I meant by >>= vs. >>
2021-03-26 20:08:15 <geekosaur> each semicolon is a >>, which means the results are *not* chained
2021-03-26 20:08:51 <NemesisD> yeah, i think (->) is the wrong monad then. if i have to use >>= to thread things through i may as well not do it at all
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2021-03-26 20:11:49 <NemesisD> i think what i've got here is an endomorphism right?
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2021-03-26 20:15:09 <geekosaur> actually what's going on is the same value is passed in to all the functions. (again, compare Reader)
2021-03-26 20:15:49 <geekosaur> if you want an endomorphism, there's newtype Endo but that's a monoid, not a monad
2021-03-26 20:16:18 geekosaur is getting out of his depth though, so take some of this with a grain of salt
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2021-03-26 20:19:16 hackage apply-unordered 1.0 - Apply a function to an argument specified by a type level Nat https://hackage.haskell.org/package/apply-unordered-1.0 (MichaelSloan)
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2021-03-26 20:20:16 hackage apply-unordered-mono 1.0 - Apply functions to arguments in an unordered type-directed fashion https://hackage.haskell.org/package/apply-unordered-mono-1.0 (MichaelSloan)
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