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2020-11-01 18:43:41 <maerwald> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/Win32-2.10.0.0/docs/System-Win32-File.html what happened to documentation :(
2020-11-01 18:44:21 <maerwald> There's one link to MS docs, which is a proper 404
2020-11-01 18:45:45 <geekosaur> "everyone who cares is on unix" happened to documentation, afaict
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2020-11-01 18:49:28 <suzu_> c_wraith: google sucks
2020-11-01 18:49:32 <suzu_> maybe i'd sell my soul to facebook
2020-11-01 18:49:37 <suzu_> they actually use haskell there
2020-11-01 18:49:50 <hpc> i think that has less to do with it being windows and more to do with it being as thin a C wrapper package as it's possible to be
2020-11-01 18:50:15 <maerwald> even ffi bindings should have documentation IMO
2020-11-01 18:50:30 <koz_> I'm with maerwald on that one honestly.
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2020-11-01 18:51:01 <koz_> You don't wanna be doing a two-way diff in your head in a context that delicate.
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2020-11-01 18:51:42 <hpc> there's opengl-related packages with that level of thinness/documentation as well
2020-11-01 18:51:51 <hpc> not saying it should be that way, just what i have observed being correlated
2020-11-01 18:54:01 hackage binary-instances 1.0.1 - Orphan instances for binary https://hackage.haskell.org/package/binary-instances-1.0.1 (phadej)
2020-11-01 18:54:17 <dminuoso> c_wraith: Haha that's interesting, I hadn't looked at RIO ever sine I started haskell. Turns out, after nearly 2 years I've slowly converged on exactly that in many of my apps.
2020-11-01 18:54:36 <maerwald> at lest copyFile exists... on Linux, you have `sendfile`, but not all kernels have it
2020-11-01 18:55:20 <dminuoso> Though I think I prefer monad-logger as the logging interface.
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2020-11-01 19:00:42 <suzu_> i use katip a lot
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2020-11-01 19:04:42 <hekkaidekapus> maerwald: “This library is just a direct binding to Windows API calls and as such contains no documentation. The documentation for functions can be found in the equivalently named functions on MSDN [URL]”.
2020-11-01 19:05:04 <hekkaidekapus> Source: <https://github.com/haskell/win32/blob/master/README.md>
2020-11-01 19:05:34 <maerwald> That sentence isn't on the hackage page: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/Win32
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2020-11-01 19:06:51 <hekkaidekapus> maerwald: The Hackage’s Markdown parser needs an update. See <https://github.com/haskell/hackage-server/pull/904> and the related issues.
2020-11-01 19:07:09 <maerwald> I think the README isn't included in the cabal file
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2020-11-01 19:08:18 <hekkaidekapus> maerwald: Ah, ok.
2020-11-01 19:08:58 <hekkaidekapus> A pull request then?
2020-11-01 19:09:20 <maerwald> yeah, once my RSI is better
2020-11-01 19:09:35 <hekkaidekapus> lol
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2020-11-01 19:11:23 <maerwald> Yeah, suggestions welcome...
2020-11-01 19:11:35 <monochrom> Use a speech recognizer.
2020-11-01 19:11:59 <monochrom> "computer, open github.com"
2020-11-01 19:12:12 <tomsmeding> "OK Google, open open github.com"
2020-11-01 19:13:00 <maerwald> is there a good open source speech recognizer? :)
2020-11-01 19:13:06 <hekkaidekapus> koz_ was talking about standing desks a few scroll back.
2020-11-01 19:13:12 <maerwald> I have one
2020-11-01 19:13:34 <maerwald> a 350 bucks ergonomic keyboard too
2020-11-01 19:13:48 <hekkaidekapus> Type matrix?
2020-11-01 19:14:16 <maerwald> I think it's since I learned touch typing, but how do you unlearn that :)
2020-11-01 19:15:05 <dsal> The problem with text to speech is that you have to learn how to say all those things you type all the time.
2020-11-01 19:15:42 <dsal> "Lens for Speech Recognition"
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2020-11-01 19:18:00 <maerwald> you could teach it klingon and then use klingon words for symbols
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2020-11-01 19:19:37 <juri_> haskell Hol vlyaj torgh.
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2020-11-01 19:20:10 <dsal> If I wanted to yell angrily at my computer, I'd write more JavaScript.
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2020-11-01 19:20:59 tomsmeding wonders how well speech recognisers deal with mixing two languages; it sounds like a good way to increase information bandwidth for speakers of multiple languages
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2020-11-01 19:22:50 <tomsmeding> doing so you also get the advantage of being able to say that you do code-switching while coding
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2020-11-01 19:25:26 <dsal> I alternate between ASCII and UTF-8 while I'm entering code.
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2020-11-01 19:27:09 <tomsmeding> difference with my suggestion is that generally, one natural language does not generally fully subsume another ;)
2020-11-01 19:27:52 <maerwald> also: https://haskellweekly.news/survey/2020.html
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2020-11-01 19:30:02 <hekkaidekapus> maerwald: As to the survey, in another channel, the admin put the URL into /topic.
2020-11-01 19:30:22 <hekkaidekapus> monochrom: Would you mind? ^^^
2020-11-01 19:31:11 ChanServ sets mode +o monochrom
2020-11-01 19:31:38 monochrom sets topic to "https://www.haskell.org | https://wiki.haskell.org/IRC_channel | Paste code/errors: https://gist.github.com/ | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/haskell/?C=M;O=D | https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell | Admin: #haskell-ops | Offtopic: #haskell-offtopic | https://downloads.haskell.org | Survey 2020: https://haskellweekly.news/survey/2020.html"
2020-11-01 19:31:54 <hekkaidekapus> Nice!
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2020-11-01 19:33:22 <tomsmeding> 🎉 even longer topic :)
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2020-11-01 19:33:58 monochrom sets mode -o monochrom
2020-11-01 19:34:03 <MarcelineVQ> data is good I guess, though answering what exensions should be default last time I did the survey didn't make any more extensions the default :>
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