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2020-11-07 21:25:28 <bqv> srid: pkgs.ghcide
2020-11-07 21:25:43 <bqv> there's also the hie-nix repo
2020-11-07 21:25:51 <bqv> or infinisil's all-hies repo
2020-11-07 21:26:06 <srid> bqv: looking for latest development version
2020-11-07 21:26:25 <bqv> also, if i have `gets _mylens` using state and lens, how could i change that to use optics?
2020-11-07 21:26:46 <bqv> srid: you could override the sources, potentially
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2020-11-07 21:26:56 <bqv> i dunno, i tend to just use ghcide
2020-11-07 21:27:15 <Cheery> anybody else feel that haskell is horrible once you get to use it?
2020-11-07 21:27:26 <koz_> Cheery: Quite the reverse.
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2020-11-07 21:27:59 <bqv> ^
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2020-11-07 21:28:49 <Cheery> It's better than C++, or GCC, and I'd say today that even Python is worse.
2020-11-07 21:28:51 <geekosaur> depends on how you're using it. (thinking of singletons here — dependent Haskell it is not, yet)
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2020-11-07 21:28:57 <monochrom> Scheme is the one that is horrible once I get to use it.
2020-11-07 21:29:13 <koz_> monochrom: Yeah, and it also depends on _which_ Scheme.
2020-11-07 21:29:23 <koz_> Since there's a lot of them, and they differ from each other in quite non-trivial ways.
2020-11-07 21:29:57 <monochrom> But they are all horrible in fundamental, common ways.
2020-11-07 21:30:29 <monochrom> For example function composition and currying become very verbose and cumbersome.
2020-11-07 21:30:40 <lortabac> Cheery: what aspect of Haskell you don't like?
2020-11-07 21:31:10 <monochrom> For example I keep making mistakes that are mistakes only because of eager evaluation.
2020-11-07 21:32:17 <monochrom> For example pattern matching. Sure, every Scheme in practice offers a pattern matching story, but none is anywhere close to as syntactically lightweight as Haskell.
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2020-11-07 21:33:05 <Cheery> lortabac: I'm tripping on them. I mean, one of them is Text/Lazy text
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2020-11-07 21:33:19 <Cheery> oh and String on that.
2020-11-07 21:33:30 hackage phonetic-languages-properties 0.2.0.0 - A generalization of the uniqueness-periods-vector-properties package. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/phonetic-languages-properties-0.2.0.0 (OleksandrZhabenko)
2020-11-07 21:34:29 <Cheery> then I write tons of LANGUAGE pragmas while I eventually need stuff. But many of those things are relatively sane things like overloaded strings are.
2020-11-07 21:34:30 hackage pcapng 0.1.0.0 - https://hackage.haskell.org/package/pcapng-0.1.0.0 (MichalGajda)
2020-11-07 21:35:43 <Cheery> I fail to like cabal, and setting up projects.
2020-11-07 21:36:37 <lortabac> I agree for the pragmas, it's a huge waste of time
2020-11-07 21:37:30 <Cheery> I've found all, functional dependencies, GADTs, type families useful
2020-11-07 21:37:43 <lortabac> you can put them in Cabal if you want to avoid the pragmas
2020-11-07 21:37:56 <lortabac> I mean, in the .cabal file
2020-11-07 21:38:02 <Cheery> but them all together make crazy language.
2020-11-07 21:38:34 <Cheery> it's like making it impossible for anybody else to touch the code
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2020-11-07 21:38:49 <Cheery> because he needs to know so much Haskell first.
2020-11-07 21:39:14 <lortabac> Cheery: my professional experience with Haskell is the exact opposite
2020-11-07 21:39:53 <lortabac> people tend to understand Haskell code bases faster than other languages
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2020-11-07 21:43:41 <Cheery> lortabac: well there are many good things mixed in, but I'm going to look at a networking library that crashes on a connection issue rather than communicate that it can happen through its type.
2020-11-07 21:44:28 <Cheery> then bitch about it because it's so bad when you could figure that happens before you run the program.
2020-11-07 21:44:52 <Cheery> overall I like it though.
2020-11-07 21:45:38 <lortabac> regarding lazy text, I don't understand the problem
2020-11-07 21:46:00 <bqv> but regarding string vs text, I do
2020-11-07 21:46:03 <pjb> lortabac: that's just because they understand haskell code bases lazily.
2020-11-07 21:46:14 <bqv> lol
2020-11-07 21:46:15 <lortabac> :)
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2020-11-07 21:57:17 <Cheery> I can say it's awe inducing though, that this thing is still working.
2020-11-07 21:58:02 <Cheery> and when it works it does good.
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2020-11-07 22:03:30 hackage phonetic-languages-examples 0.2.0.0 - A generalization of the uniqueness-periods-vector-examples functionality. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/phonetic-languages-examples-0.2.0.0 (OleksandrZhabenko)
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2020-11-07 22:42:00 hackage futhark 0.18.2 - An optimising compiler for a functional, array-oriented language. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/futhark-0.18.2 (TroelsHenriksen)
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