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2021-04-08 19:04:14 <davean> I can see how you don't see that if you don't git hard, but if you git ...
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2021-04-08 19:15:42 <monochrom> If you own the repo, you push all the time, I know I do.
2021-04-08 19:17:24 <monochrom> I push from my computer to my github repo.
2021-04-08 19:17:59 <maerwald> the only time you don't push is when you work directly on the bare git repo, which you probably shouldn't
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2021-04-08 19:18:57 <maerwald> the only plague that github introduces is the merge button in the UI
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2021-04-08 19:19:25 <maerwald> that's what breaks all the original workflow (and also other things like proper gpg signatures)
2021-04-08 19:19:50 <sm[m]> I push from my machine to my github repo too. Does that make github push based ? I thought we were talking more about the collaboration flow
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2021-04-08 19:20:57 <monochrom> Alright, my workflow is push-based, and it's a very personal repo.
2021-04-08 19:22:07 <maerwald> though Linus said that github isn't radical enough with their usability UI... he wants a better online editor
2021-04-08 19:22:21 <maerwald> because that's the only reason he uses that website anyway
2021-04-08 19:22:36 <yushyin> haha
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2021-04-08 19:23:08 <monochrom> Yeah sounds like an oversimplified merge button is a sorry excuse for a merge-and-resolve-conflict editor.
2021-04-08 19:23:29 <monochrom> But let me have some fun here.
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2021-04-08 19:23:52 <monochrom> Back then I used RCS and then CVS. It was ci-based, and it was ci both ways.
2021-04-08 19:24:07 <monochrom> And back then "ci" meant "check in". And it was always snowing.
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2021-04-08 19:25:11 <maerwald> doing rebases against remote branches in git with large local branches is an insane task... you have to fix conflicts for every single commit and it's easy to lose track what's going on, what commit you're on etc
2021-04-08 19:25:21 <maerwald> the cli doesn't help much here
2021-04-08 19:25:33 <maerwald> github failed to do anything about that
2021-04-08 19:26:04 <maerwald> but these days everyone just does merges, including reverse merges
2021-04-08 19:26:29 <monochrom> Only a 60-inch 4K screen helps. So that you can see all of the mess on your table.
2021-04-08 19:26:50 <maerwald> That's when I go home and eat Ramen instead
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2021-04-08 19:27:19 <maerwald> or dream what if darcs had won the VCS race
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2021-04-08 19:28:06 <maerwald> also: https://github.com/mhagger/git-imerge
2021-04-08 19:28:13 <maerwald> good example why git can be too hard :)
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2021-04-08 19:39:13 <hololeap> git-cola's pretty nice
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2021-04-08 19:39:35 <hololeap> not sure if it would help in that case
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2021-04-08 19:42:41 <maerwald> one thing is: whenever I run `git mergetool`, I have to figure out which of those 3 sides is what exactly
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2021-04-08 19:44:52 <sm[m]> maerwald: if you want to feel better about git merge conflicts, try darcs' for a bit!
2021-04-08 19:45:16 <maerwald> I don't even understand the concepts of darcs :)
2021-04-08 19:45:25 <sm[m]> darcs just has no idea which side is which :)
2021-04-08 19:46:32 <maerwald> https://shafiul.github.io/gitbook/1_the_git_object_model.html this is the only thing you need to know about git
2021-04-08 19:47:04 <maerwald> with darcs, I don't know where to start
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2021-04-08 19:49:45 <sm[m]> Oh darcs is pretty easy - just "it'll munge my text edits together in any order as long as they don't overlap"
2021-04-08 19:50:19 <haskellstudent> fresheyeball: i finished my miso vs reflex vs shpadoinkle evaluation. i spent the last week learning the basics and reading the todomvc code in all 3 and implemented the same small program (this https://i.imgur.com/YbTvJoB.png) in each. its the same in miso and shpadoinkle, but in reflex i could not figure out how to do the add/remove page buttons which add and remove "pages" and buttons at runtime even after an entire day. i am
2021-04-08 19:50:19 <haskellstudent> most pleased with spadoinkle, it seems like the most elegant and straightforward way to do it and i had a great experience with it so far so thank you for creating it and recommending it to me!
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2021-04-08 19:50:43 <sm[m]> and I can push/pull those around to other repos. All you need to know
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2021-04-08 19:50:46 <haskellstudent> if anyone is interested, this is the code for the same thing (minus add/remove page) in reflex for the 3 libs:
2021-04-08 19:50:47 <haskellstudent> shpadoinkle https://pastebin.com/Z9dkdw3e
2021-04-08 19:50:47 <haskellstudent> miso https://pastebin.com/HA225uWC
2021-04-08 19:50:47 <haskellstudent> reflex https://pastebin.com/HLRM5RMA
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2021-04-08 20:21:03 <dcbdan> is there a debugger / program stepper? i.e. walk through the values of variables in a program step by step? Kinda like gdb, but with haskell values? Right now I make a lot of print statements, is that un-advisable?
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