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2021-03-01 18:30:38 <tweek> i cant get imgui working for the life of me
2021-03-01 18:30:41 <tweek> kill me
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2021-03-01 18:32:40 <boxscape> Dysfunctional nix can be quite nice when you figure out what you have to do, but it can be pretty difficult to figure that out because of the state of the documentation
2021-03-01 18:33:03 <boxscape> or possibly it's just an inherent property of nix that couldn't be fixed with better documentation, I'm not sure
2021-03-01 18:33:06 <maerwald> nix as an idea: nice. Nix as an ecosystem: horrible
2021-03-01 18:33:40 <maerwald> increases bus factor, becomes a risk in your company
2021-03-01 18:34:07 <monochrom> What is bus factor?
2021-03-01 18:34:13 <maerwald> while not solving any real problem you couldn't have solved otherwise (modulo some edge cases)
2021-03-01 18:34:22 <maerwald> monochrom: huh?
2021-03-01 18:34:25 <Dysfunctional> and what about custom executables, installation files, etc? Do you have to write your own .nix files for them?
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2021-03-01 18:34:41 <maerwald> monochrom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
2021-03-01 18:35:09 <boxscape> Dysfunctional yes
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2021-03-01 18:37:11 <monochrom> Thanks. But then isn't increasing bus factor the desirable direction, and you meant decreasing bus factor?
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2021-03-01 18:37:24 <Dysfunctional> and is it hard? checking for all the dependencies, what not... is there a tutorial on how to do that?
2021-03-01 18:37:57 <Dysfunctional> decreasing bus factor is better XD with covid we've got an increase
2021-03-01 18:38:07 <geekosaur> higher bus factor = more people who are single points of failure
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2021-03-01 18:38:45 <geekosaur> potentially
2021-03-01 18:39:39 <boxscape> Dysfunctional the best tutorial I'm aware of are the "nix pills" but I didn't find it to be a very good tutorial
2021-03-01 18:40:10 <aarvar> geekosaur: according to wikipedia that's a "rare alternative definition"
2021-03-01 18:41:16 <boxscape> Dysfunctional the #nixos IRC channel is indispensible
2021-03-01 18:41:46 <Dysfunctional> ok, might bother them in the future, thanks
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2021-03-01 18:44:01 <Dysfunctional> just wondering whether haskell isn't in the same situation somewhat... a nice idea but a risk for a company
2021-03-01 18:44:11 <boxscape> Dysfunctional also something that took me forever to figure out is that this page exists, linked from the nixpkgs github, which documents how to use nix with various languages https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/stable/#chap-language-support
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2021-03-01 18:45:14 <python476> hello there
2021-03-01 18:45:37 <boxscape> hi
2021-03-01 18:45:48 <python476> do you think it's possible to define a GUI monad ?
2021-03-01 18:46:04 <python476> like a parser but upon stream of user input events ?
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2021-03-01 18:46:45 <Dysfunctional> boxscope ok, thanks, will be helpful!
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2021-03-01 18:47:59 <geekosaur> there are free monad-based user interfaces, e.g. Prompt, for one interpretation of "GUI monad"; and there is monadic FRP for a different interpretation of "GUI monad"
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2021-03-01 18:52:51 <python476> geekosaur: fair point
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2021-03-01 19:34:43 <sclv> ?hoogle interact
2021-03-01 19:34:43 <lambdabot> Prelude interact :: (String -> String) -> IO ()
2021-03-01 19:34:43 <lambdabot> System.IO interact :: (String -> String) -> IO ()

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