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2021-02-27 13:49:36 <Spidey> Wow, just wow. WSL2 with virtualization instructions support is absurdly faster, the IO is greatly improved. And now installation worked.
2021-02-27 13:49:50 <Spidey> Just wanted to tip the hat to you guys for the attention and help.
2021-02-27 13:50:11 <maerwald> o/
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2021-02-27 13:50:40 <maerwald> should consider switching to windows and using WSL for deving
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2021-02-27 13:54:21 hackage fbrnch 0.7.2 - Build and create Fedora package repos and branches https://hackage.haskell.org/package/fbrnch-0.7.2 (JensPetersen)
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2021-02-27 14:03:27 <Franciman> maerwald, and giving in to propertary software?
2021-02-27 14:04:16 <maerwald> idc when linux is unable to set my laptop to sleep, wakes it up while lid is closed and causes cpu overheating (it did)
2021-02-27 14:04:56 <Franciman> sad :<
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2021-02-27 14:18:59 <hololeap> i haven't had a laptop be that incompatible with linux in years, but i remember having to mess with some weird acpi-related firmware in the past
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2021-02-27 14:19:18 <maerwald> thinkpad are incompatible since the dawn of time
2021-02-27 14:19:29 <maerwald> multi-monitor with different DPI is also crap on linux
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2021-02-27 14:21:57 <hololeap> maerwald: that's too bad. even with wayland?
2021-02-27 14:22:18 <maerwald> wayland isn't even an option
2021-02-27 14:22:49 <Chousuke> What kind of hardware do you have that it isn't? Works fine for me :P
2021-02-27 14:23:05 <maerwald> Chousuke: wayland doesn't support my graphics card?
2021-02-27 14:23:12 <Chousuke> nvidia?
2021-02-27 14:23:26 <maerwald> see, all those problems don't exist on windows
2021-02-27 14:23:40 <maerwald> and with WSL2, haskell deving makes sense
2021-02-27 14:23:52 <Chousuke> Instead, you get to deal with all the problems that do exist on Windows :)
2021-02-27 14:24:06 <maerwald> at least my hardware works
2021-02-27 14:24:12 <jackdk> True, but you will forever be uninstalling Bubble Witch 3 Saga, Clash of Empires: War of Lords, Cortana, Edge, telemetry, ...
2021-02-27 14:24:12 <Chousuke> but if your hardware happens to be particularly incompatible with Linux, there's not much you can do.
2021-02-27 14:24:46 <jackdk> It is absolutely appalling that people have to choose between being abused by their OS and hardware support.
2021-02-27 14:25:08 <Chousuke> I bought my machine with very deliberate choices for good Linux support, and it works.
2021-02-27 14:25:12 <hololeap> jackdk: have you tried this? https://github.com/Wohlstand/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying
2021-02-27 14:25:57 <Chousuke> basically, stay far away from nvidia and buy bog-standard stuff that isn't quite bleeding edge, and things generally work out fine :P
2021-02-27 14:26:32 <hololeap> there was also this: https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater
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2021-02-27 14:27:13 <hololeap> i barely use windows and i haven't tested to see if these get deactivated at some point, but they at least gave "success" messages when i ran them :)
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2021-02-27 14:27:44 <mouseghost> task failed successfuly
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2021-02-27 14:29:38 <Chousuke> And with laptops I guess if you buy the cheapest stuff you can be quite certain that the manufacturer has barely bothered to make it work with Windows, never mind testing at all on other platforms. :/
2021-02-27 14:30:47 <Chousuke> higher-end stuff may work better.
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2021-02-27 14:32:25 <hololeap> i got my 10-year-old HP ProBook for $115 and it's great. It actually comes with VGA and ethernet ports built in :)
2021-02-27 14:32:42 <Chousuke> the only laptop I have is an older HP Elitebook and it works without issues out-of-the-box with Fedora, so I can't really say how common it is for laptops to have such issues with Linux.
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2021-02-27 14:34:28 <geekosaur> I'm currently using a (used) thinkpad x220 for which I specifically checked for linux support before buying
2021-02-27 14:35:06 <geekosaur> before that I had an hp envy which had various hardware issues in any OS (the model I had turned out to be somewhat infamous) but what did work worked fine in linux as well as windows
2021-02-27 14:36:12 <geekosaur> the only thing not working on either machine is the fingerprint sensor
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2021-02-27 14:37:21 hackage hextream 0.3.0.0 - Streaming-friendly XML parsers https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hextream-0.3.0.0 (koral)
2021-02-27 14:39:20 <Chousuke> It's not guaranteed that things always work on Windows, either :P My work laptop is a newer HP and for a time I was prevented from upgrading to a newer release of Windows 10 because of a known driver bug that would render the machine unbootable if upgraded.
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