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2021-05-03 20:28:06 <safinaskar> > 0
2021-05-03 20:28:08 <lambdabot> 0
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2021-05-03 20:32:38 <NemesisD> is it possible to get type-level info with generics just with a type or proxy to a type? for example, i want to get `packageName` of a given type
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2021-05-03 20:38:44 <safinaskar> why this does not compile? https://paste.tomsmeding.com/xoTwfmza
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2021-05-03 20:40:18 <tomsmeding> safinaskar: data constructors must be either a word that start with a capital letter, or an operator that starts with the ':' symbol
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2021-05-03 20:40:43 <tomsmeding> and operator-style constructors are only allowed using the TypeOperators language extension
2021-05-03 20:41:01 <tomsmeding> scratch that
2021-05-03 20:41:03 <shapr> lambdabot: @quote
2021-05-03 20:41:03 <lambdabot> conal says: omg -- i can print right from emacs again. praise be to Linux!
2021-05-03 20:41:05 <tomsmeding> you don't need the extension for that
2021-05-03 20:42:45 <safinaskar> tomsmeding: thanks. is it possible to enable any symbol combinations?
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2021-05-03 20:43:16 <tomsmeding> shapr: a few years ago in my first year of university, I once piped something to lpr on their machine and told them to walk to the printer. They walked away disbelieving but came back with a big grin on their face
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2021-05-03 20:43:53 <tomsmeding> safinaskar: to allow operator-style data constructors that don't start with a ':'? no that's not possible currently
2021-05-03 20:44:29 <tomsmeding> ':' is the "capital symbol" just like A-Z are the capital letters, according to GHC
2021-05-03 20:44:42 <tomsmeding> and you can't define a data constructor that starts with a lowercase letter either :)
2021-05-03 20:44:42 <shapr> tomsmeding: related, I tried very hard to do the ethical thing and pay per page for printing from my Linux system at university. When I told uni IT that I could just print for free and wanted to pay for it, they laughed and said it wasn't my problem.
2021-05-03 20:44:55 <tomsmeding> :D
2021-05-03 20:45:09 <safinaskar> tomsmeding: " ':' is the "capital symbol" just like A-Z are the capital letters, according to GHC " - OMG
2021-05-03 20:45:15 <safinaskar> tomsmeding: thanks
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2021-05-03 20:45:20 <tomsmeding> never heard of capital symbols? :)
2021-05-03 20:45:47 <shapr> My uni also had OpenDNS or whatever thing let you blacklist certain DNS names, many of my classmates were paying for VPNs so they could get around it. When I taught them how DNS worked, they saved a bunch of money.
2021-05-03 20:46:45 <shapr> I later heard the computer departments breathed a sigh of relief when I graduated.
2021-05-03 20:46:52 <pjb> :-)
2021-05-03 20:46:57 <tomsmeding> hah they didn't block anything at my uni fortunately, at least that I know
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2021-05-03 20:48:30 <shapr> Uni accounts were locked if you used the wrong password three times. They were horrified when I described to them how easy that made it to lock all instructor accounts every few seconds.
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2021-05-03 20:50:10 <shapr> I restarted my bachelor's degree at age 40, all my instructors were younger than me and had far less real world programming clue. That was a weird experience for everyone involved.
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2021-05-03 20:50:31 <tomsmeding> I believe that would still work perfectly at my uni today
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