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2020-11-26 11:39:17 <bifunc2> [exa] vector-sized library seems to be working like magic
2020-11-26 11:39:33 <bifunc2> so if all i need are fixed length vectors, this seems like the library to use
2020-11-26 11:39:38 <bifunc2> seems quite popular too
2020-11-26 11:40:03 <bifunc2> i no longer see a reason to use normal vector and do runtime asserts
2020-11-26 11:40:38 <dminuoso> "quite popular" according to which metric?
2020-11-26 11:40:48 <dminuoso> Anyway, popularity is not necessarily an indicator of quality
2020-11-26 11:40:57 <dminuoso> An unpopular library can be of high quality, and popular libraries can be of low quality
2020-11-26 11:41:03 <maerwald> 14k downloads
2020-11-26 11:41:14 <dminuoso> That can easily mean it's a transitive dependency of some popular package
2020-11-26 11:41:21 <maerwald> yes, that means the lib is popular
2020-11-26 11:41:30 <dminuoso> Depends on how you look at it
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2020-11-26 11:41:58 <maerwald> it isn't all that complicated
2020-11-26 11:42:01 <dminuoso> If a single popular package has vector-sized as a *transitive* dependency, is vector-sized popular?
2020-11-26 11:42:04 <dminuoso> hard to say
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2020-11-26 11:42:25 <dminuoso> Id say popularity means a lot of people use your package as a direct dependency
2020-11-26 11:42:27 <dminuoso> not transitive
2020-11-26 11:42:46 <kindaro> Is there a file in `~/.cabal` that contains the list of all versions of all installed packages?
2020-11-26 11:43:04 <dminuoso> Most people dont use ghc-prim, but everyone has it in their dependency tree. Is it a popular library?
2020-11-26 11:43:05 <kindaro> Or, should I say, stored packages.
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2020-11-26 11:43:43 <maerwald> dminuoso: 14k downloads is a pretty good indicator of popularity. If you think it isn't, you should probably bring up proof :)
2020-11-26 11:44:12 <dminuoso> maerwald: https://packdeps.haskellers.com/reverse/vector-sized
2020-11-26 11:44:27 <maerwald> packdeps isn't exhaustive
2020-11-26 11:44:28 <dminuoso> 14 packages on hackage depend on it
2020-11-26 11:44:30 <dminuoso> out of tha
2020-11-26 11:44:32 <dminuoso> I only recognize 1.
2020-11-26 11:44:39 <dminuoso> On the entire of hackage, only one package I recognize depends on it.
2020-11-26 11:44:49 <dminuoso> That in my book makes it a very unpopular library
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2020-11-26 11:45:06 <dminuoso> Of course its not exhaustive, its an indicator.
2020-11-26 11:45:13 <dminuoso> But one that better represents popularity
2020-11-26 11:46:02 <maerwald> servant-client just has 100 reverse deps, the other 10k it doesn't show :D
2020-11-26 11:46:14 <maerwald> downloads are much more reliable metric
2020-11-26 11:46:21 <dminuoso> Hard to say
2020-11-26 11:46:26 <bifunc2> i don't have any great definition of this, my friend :) i just looked at https://hackage.haskell.org/package/vector-sized-1.4.2 and saw 100 d/ls in last 30 days. more than most libraries :P
2020-11-26 11:46:33 <bifunc2> s/this/popular
2020-11-26 11:46:41 <[exa]> bifunc2: that may be automated downloads :D
2020-11-26 11:47:04 <[exa]> one of my R libs has 400 installs per month but I'm fairly sure it has precisely 10 users.
2020-11-26 11:47:11 <maerwald> [exa]: that even out for all of hackage (automated downloads)
2020-11-26 11:47:22 <maerwald> so it's not a particularly strong argument
2020-11-26 11:47:23 <boxscape> hm looks like vector-sized uses CPS-style existentials
2020-11-26 11:47:39 <dminuoso> 12:46:02 maerwald | servant-client just has 100 reverse deps, the other 10k it doesn't show :D
2020-11-26 11:47:43 <kindaro> How can I list all packages and versions available in Cabal store?
2020-11-26 11:47:51 <dminuoso> maerwald: I guess the difference is servant-client is very likley to have users who do not share their product on hackage
2020-11-26 11:48:04 <maerwald> why is that a *difference*?
2020-11-26 11:48:18 <dminuoso> a container library can be reasonably expected to be used by other liraries
2020-11-26 11:48:37 <dminuoso> its not just executables that need vectors
2020-11-26 11:48:51 <dminuoso> kindaro: find.
2020-11-26 11:49:18 <[exa]> maerwald: yeah just wanted to point out that the number may be biased
2020-11-26 11:49:18 <maerwald> dminuoso: servant-client is not an executable :D
2020-11-26 11:49:28 <dminuoso> maerwald: No, but it likely is used by executables
2020-11-26 11:49:40 <dminuoso> There's relatively little API wrappers on hackage
2020-11-26 11:49:53 <maerwald> dminuoso: look at the reverse deps and you'll see lots of libraries :)
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2020-11-26 11:50:15 <maerwald> so this seems more like an assumption rather than an observation
2020-11-26 11:50:19 <dminuoso> You just switched your argument
2020-11-26 11:50:26 <dminuoso> maerwald: Your point was "servant-client just has 100 reverse deps, the other 10k it doesn't show"
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