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| 2021-04-20 18:06:48 | <maerwald> | And1: I'm not sure why you get that error. Maybe try `arch -x86_64 /bin/bash` followed by `uname -m`` |
| 2021-04-20 18:08:45 | <Uniaika> | And1: the more I look at the Framework Laptop, the more I want them to succeed… |
| 2021-04-20 18:09:14 | <Uniaika> | And1: unfortunately the MNT Reform is not powerful enough for most of my needs |
| 2021-04-20 18:09:26 | <Uniaika> | although it would make a good gift for a kid |
| 2021-04-20 18:09:48 | <Uniaika> | oh wait that's the historical page |
| 2021-04-20 18:10:10 | <And1> | Uniaika: Oh, is it? Sorry for that! |
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| 2021-04-20 18:10:21 | <Uniaika> | And1: no worries, found the more recent page ;) |
| 2021-04-20 18:10:25 | ← | ludi491 parts (~hryhorij@ip595.t15.ds.pwr.wroc.pl) () |
| 2021-04-20 18:10:52 | <Uniaika> | oh wait, it's priced at $1500 :O |
| 2021-04-20 18:11:07 | <Uniaika> | or $1000 |
| 2021-04-20 18:11:07 | <And1> | maerwald: Executing both commands one after the other results in … arm64. That's weird. |
| 2021-04-20 18:11:34 | <maerwald> | yeah, that sounds like a problem |
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| 2021-04-20 18:12:03 | <And1> | Uniaika: I think the first price is the built computer, the second is the diy kit. If I remember correctly. |
| 2021-04-20 18:12:24 | <Uniaika> | yep |
| 2021-04-20 18:12:25 | <And1> | maerwald: Just registered for the GitLab. Should I post what we just figured out? |
| 2021-04-20 18:12:45 | <maerwald> | Uniaika: now I'm considering to switch to windows on my thinkpad, because energy management on linux is... |
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| 2021-04-20 18:12:53 | <maerwald> | And1: yeah |
| 2021-04-20 18:13:19 | <Uniaika> | And1: problem is that 4GB isn't enough at all :( |
| 2021-04-20 18:13:43 | <Uniaika> | maerwald: did you even install TLP ? |
| 2021-04-20 18:13:47 | <maerwald> | sure |
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| 2021-04-20 18:14:06 | <Uniaika> | and yeah, energy management on linux is not on-par with Windows |
| 2021-04-20 18:15:27 | <maerwald> | monitor scaling as well |
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| 2021-04-20 18:16:42 | <monochrom> | My energy management experience is the opposite, linux saves the most, windows is being a hog. |
| 2021-04-20 18:16:58 | <monochrom> | But it's a Dell laptop. |
| 2021-04-20 18:18:50 | <maerwald> | it was hard to find a haskell suitable laptop that doesn't have this new keypad madness |
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| 2021-04-20 18:19:22 | <maerwald> | not sure how you're supposed to do touch typing on such a laptop keyboard |
| 2021-04-20 18:19:25 | <davean> | keypad madness? |
| 2021-04-20 18:19:42 | <maerwald> | new laptops have a complete numpad thing on the right side |
| 2021-04-20 18:19:52 | <davean> | Thats not new? |
| 2021-04-20 18:19:56 | <monochrom> | Oh. Death to the numpad, sure. |
| 2021-04-20 18:19:58 | <davean> | Thats just a full size keyboard |
| 2021-04-20 18:20:08 | <maerwald> | yes, that's new for laptopts. |
| 2021-04-20 18:20:15 | <davean> | No, that WAS standard |
| 2021-04-20 18:20:22 | <maerwald> | I don't think so |
| 2021-04-20 18:20:26 | <davean> | I think you're juts looking at larger laptops than you use to |
| 2021-04-20 18:21:06 | <monochrom> | "Is this gaming keyboard?" meme >:) |
| 2021-04-20 18:21:38 | <And1> | maerwald: done. |
| 2021-04-20 18:22:08 | <davean> | maerwald: Its ironic though, because its touch typers who request the 100% keyboards |
| 2021-04-20 18:22:30 | <maerwald> | source? |
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| 2021-04-20 18:22:57 | <davean> | maerwald: Primarily business users who have to enter numbers |
| 2021-04-20 18:23:45 | <maerwald> | well, I question that it's touch typers who primarily request this |
| 2021-04-20 18:24:07 | <davean> | ok, whatever |
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| 2021-04-20 18:24:39 | <monochrom> | I guess business users have the majority of touch typers and the majority of non-touch typers too. |
| 2021-04-20 18:24:40 | <maerwald> | it causes a really awkward non-symmetric hand position |
| 2021-04-20 18:25:19 | <hyperisco> | designers should consider the organ when designing computer keyboards |
| 2021-04-20 18:25:23 | <davean> | maerwald: only if you center on the laptop not the keyboard |
| 2021-04-20 18:25:29 | <maerwald> | correct |
| 2021-04-20 18:26:28 | <maerwald> | now your face isn't in the center anymore :p |
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| 2021-04-20 18:27:47 | <monochrom> | Hey there was a Hong Kong TV drama show that attempted to tell the story of a software startup. Their notion of programming was having some 3x3 grid of 9 digits on the screen, and hitting the keyboard to mutate the digits. |
| 2021-04-20 18:27:59 | <monochrom> | Perhaps the numpad would be perfect for those "devs". >:) |
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| 2021-04-20 18:28:23 | <maerwald> | I'm building my own keyboard anyway (which I don't recommend anyone... it's a time sink) |
| 2021-04-20 18:28:31 | <monochrom> | Oh they would complain about non-symmetric hand position too --- the numpad was not at the centre. >:D |
| 2021-04-20 18:28:53 | <maerwald> | but so far most external keyboards, no matter if ergonomic or not are worse than a thinkpad keyboard |
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| 2021-04-20 18:29:18 | <hyperisco> | monochrom, sounds like they were playing minesweeper |
| 2021-04-20 18:29:38 | <monochrom> | And do not think that the movie Ex Machina does it much better. Only slightly better. |
| 2021-04-20 18:30:17 | <monochrom> | Their notion of re-programming the house's computer-controlled security system was writing find-primes-by-trial-division in Python. |
| 2021-04-20 18:30:27 | <maerwald> | davean: what I want is an ortholinear laptop keyboard... afaik this has never been done |
| 2021-04-20 18:30:39 | <maerwald> | which is understandable... it's a niche market |
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| 2021-04-20 18:31:31 | <maerwald> | And1: you could try downloading ghcup binary directly and then do the arch trick with it |
| 2021-04-20 18:32:09 | <maerwald> | maybe it's just a shell issue |
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| 2021-04-20 18:32:25 | <maerwald> | And1: https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghcup/0.1.14.1/ |
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| 2021-04-20 18:32:52 | <And1> | maerwald: I'm using bash as default shell. But probably this information is unnecessary, as the arch command also launches /bin/bash … :D |
| 2021-04-20 18:33:02 | <maerwald> | I remember docker also misbehaves with uname if you're in a 32bit docker container on a 64bit host |
| 2021-04-20 18:33:20 | <maerwald> | the shell script you're invoking runs `uname -m` |
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| 2021-04-20 18:33:31 | <maerwald> | the binary itself not, so it should work under rosetta |
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| 2021-04-20 18:33:47 | <And1> | maerwald: Pardon, how would I test/run the binary? |
| 2021-04-20 18:33:51 | <maerwald> | maybe they changed how uname behaves on rosetta |
| 2021-04-20 18:34:01 | <yushyin> | maerwald: I would also like an ortholinear laptop keyboard! |
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