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| 2021-03-29 14:24:13 | <tomsmeding> | tdammers: you can access Outlook from VBA in any Office application, which includes Excel https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/vba/outlook/Concepts/Getting-Started/automating-outlook-from-a-visual-basic-application |
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| 2021-03-29 14:32:07 | <johnnyboy[m]> | doesn't adding Turing completeness to a spreadsheet processor also imply that it allows all sorts of nasty viruses etc? |
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| 2021-03-29 14:34:51 | <tomsmeding> | johnnyboy[m]: browsers with javascript have been Turing complete since ages; same question applies |
| 2021-03-29 14:35:22 | <johnnyboy[m]> | and browsers are known to have been subject to nasty malware |
| 2021-03-29 14:38:00 | <johnnyboy[m]> | I tried processing a one megabyte CSV file with both excel and libreoffice calc once, and both of them struggled with it |
| 2021-03-29 14:38:11 | <johnnyboy[m]> | I guess spreadsheet programs aren't lazy |
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| 2021-03-29 14:43:08 | <johnnyboy[m]> | sorry, it was around a million lines |
| 2021-03-29 14:43:26 | <johnnyboy[m]> | the file size might have been dozens or a hundred megabytes maybe |
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| 2021-03-29 14:45:26 | <tomsmeding> | johnnyboy[m]: spreadsheet programs indeed have strict evaluation semantics (unless you turn off automatic evaluation, that is) |
| 2021-03-29 14:46:00 | <tomsmeding> | and they also do far too much with their individual cells to be able to have the efficiency of a database engine, which is sometimes unfortunate |
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| 2021-03-29 14:46:07 | <ski> | i recall hearing someone describe functional programming as "a bit like spreadsheets", before i'd seen Haskell |
| 2021-03-29 14:46:40 | <ski> | (well, i think it was specifically Haskell this person was trying to describe) |
| 2021-03-29 14:47:19 | <johnnyboy[m]> | my first real programming project involved an NGO who used excel as a database |
| 2021-03-29 14:47:36 | <johnnyboy[m]> | and we were supposed to write a real database application to replace it |
| 2021-03-29 14:47:45 | <johnnyboy[m]> | but I think they still use excel |
| 2021-03-29 14:48:03 | <johnnyboy[m]> | I can't really blame them |
| 2021-03-29 14:48:12 | <johnnyboy[m]> | we used mongodb :P |
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