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2020-10-09 10:05:55 <AWizzArd> Hey cr0ssw1nd
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2020-10-09 10:08:28 hackage prettyprinter-graphviz 1.1.0.0 - A prettyprinter backend for graphviz https://hackage.haskell.org/package/prettyprinter-graphviz-1.1.0.0 (GeorgeThomas)
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2020-10-09 10:18:58 hackage uniqueness-periods-vector-properties 0.5.1.0 - Metrices for the maximum element for the uniqueness-periods-vector packages family. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/uniqueness-periods-vector-properties-0.5.1.0 (OleksandrZhabenko)
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2020-10-09 10:19:58 hackage named-servant-server 0.1.0, named-servant-client 0.1.0 (KristofBastiaensen): https://qbin.io/arabia-sole-w4ye
2020-10-09 10:26:57 hackage named-servant 0.1.1 - https://hackage.haskell.org/package/named-servant-0.1.1 (KristofBastiaensen)
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2020-10-09 10:27:58 hackage named-servant-server 0.1.1, named-servant-client 0.1.1 (KristofBastiaensen): https://qbin.io/cat-rpm-5a0f
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2020-10-09 10:34:28 hackage bytestring-tree-builder 0.2.7.5 - A very efficient ByteString builder implementation based on the binary tree https://hackage.haskell.org/package/bytestring-tree-builder-0.2.7.5 (NikitaVolkov)
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2020-10-09 10:37:57 hackage uniqueness-periods-vector-examples 0.11.0.0 - Usage examples for the uniqueness-periods-vector series of packages https://hackage.haskell.org/package/uniqueness-periods-vector-examples-0.11.0.0 (OleksandrZhabenko)
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2020-10-09 10:41:32 <kuribas> why does hlint recommends (Just True = x) for fromMaybe False x
2020-10-09 10:41:32 <kuribas> ?
2020-10-09 10:41:58 <dminuoso> kuribas: Because its an opinionated tool
2020-10-09 10:42:14 <kuribas> s/=/==
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2020-10-09 10:42:45 <dminuoso> If the author believes `A` is better than `B`, you have to ask the author why they think that.
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2020-10-09 10:43:08 <kuribas> well, sometimes I can see the point, even if I disagree.
2020-10-09 10:43:08 <maerwald> which is why I don't understand why ppl use it in CI
2020-10-09 10:43:12 <kuribas> here I don't even see the point
2020-10-09 10:43:18 <dminuoso> It's weird when I see people using tools like `hlint` and then zealously following its recommendations, hoping it "improves your code"
2020-10-09 10:43:31 <kuribas> maerwald: it doesn't make sense in CI at all.
2020-10-09 10:43:41 <maerwald> Yet, ppl do that.
2020-10-09 10:43:45 <dminuoso> You should modify and tweak hlint to tell you about things *you* want to know about
2020-10-09 10:43:52 <maerwald> hintman makes sense, but not in CI
2020-10-09 10:44:02 <kuribas> maerwald: unless it just shows the warnings, not stopping the build.
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2020-10-09 10:44:10 <dminuoso> Like, Im a big fan of stylish-haskell and similar tools, but only if you tweak them to apply the formatting you wanted *anyway*.
2020-10-09 10:44:12 <kuribas> maerwald: even some ghc warnings I disagree with.
2020-10-09 10:44:15 <maerwald> https://github.com/apps/hint-man
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2020-10-09 10:44:28 <dminuoso> kuribas: that's why GHC allows you to turn them on or off.
2020-10-09 10:44:36 <dminuoso> If you dont agree with them, disable them.
2020-10-09 10:44:37 <maerwald> kuribas: it does stop the build, so I have to argue every time and disable non-sensical warnings :)
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2020-10-09 10:44:57 <dminuoso> Mostly, GHC has good defaults if you enable -Wall. Emphasis on mostly.
2020-10-09 10:45:08 <maerwald> if those are comments in the PR, like hint-man does, it's fine
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2020-10-09 10:45:46 <dminuoso> Though in case of GHC, I wish we had a granular tool to disable particular warnings in code regions.
2020-10-09 10:45:53 <dminuoso> That would solve the above issues.
2020-10-09 10:46:47 <dminuoso> Especially orphan instances. :>
2020-10-09 10:46:55 dminuoso wishes for {-# ADOPT #-}
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2020-10-09 10:52:03 <kuribas> maerwald: making some warnings errors I can understand, like totality checking.
2020-10-09 10:52:25 <kuribas> maerwald: I would also disallow `head`, `(!)`, etc...
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2020-10-09 10:53:14 <kuribas> maerwald: I was bitten by partial functions in a small script I wrote. I was thinking it didn't matter for the small script, but the person using it was getting unhelpful errors.
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2020-10-09 10:53:58 <kuribas> the good thing is that finally my colleage could make his hands dirty on haskell :)
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2020-10-09 11:01:27 hackage named-servant 0.2.0 - https://hackage.haskell.org/package/named-servant-0.2.0 (KristofBastiaensen)
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