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| 2020-10-31 17:09:07 | <newbi> | hello, i have to instal WinGHCi for my course but everytime i download it on the internet i cant install it |
| 2020-10-31 17:09:10 | <newbi> | can someone help |
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| 2020-10-31 17:10:34 | <hc> | newbi: I'm not familiar with webghci, but if all you want is a running haskell compiler/interpreter on windows, you might try out stack |
| 2020-10-31 17:10:52 | <hc> | https://docs.haskellstack.org/en/stable/README/ |
| 2020-10-31 17:11:04 | <hc> | there is a direct link to a windows installer executable |
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| 2020-10-31 17:12:59 | <newbi> | hc: thank you i will try it. is it new user friendly? i have to submit my homework in *.hs format |
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| 2020-10-31 17:14:16 | <__monty__> | newbi: ghcup might be another option |
| 2020-10-31 17:16:02 | <maerwald> | on windows it doesn't work natively, only in WSL |
| 2020-10-31 17:17:37 | <newbi> | i installed Haskell GHCI already from their site. is stack IDE for Haskell? |
| 2020-10-31 17:19:31 | <geekosaur> | I don't know of any IDEs as such, although various editors have extensions with Haskell support |
| 2020-10-31 17:19:48 | <geekosaur> | in any case stack is a command line interface, not an IDE |
| 2020-10-31 17:21:19 | <__monty__> | Ah, WinGHCi looks like a GUI for GHCi. newbi: None of the previous advice will help any. |
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| 2020-10-31 17:21:43 | <__monty__> | newbi: When you say "their site" do you mean the google code archive? |
| 2020-10-31 17:21:44 | <monsterchrom> | Finally, someone actually read the question. |
| 2020-10-31 17:22:56 | <__monty__> | Oof, looks like pretty old software though. "Tested with GHC 6.10.1" |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:04 | <hc> | newbi: no idea; it depends on your definition of 'user friendly' |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:04 | <newbi> | thank you guys. I mean the haskell.org site. i downloaded everything using PowerShell |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:05 | <merijn> | oof |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:17 | <geekosaur> | I not only read the question, I went and asked google about it and got its github. but couldn't verify it's actually still maintained, notwithstanding what it claims |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:30 | <geekosaur> | in any case it's not an IDE either |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:37 | <geekosaur> | (which was also asked) |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:46 | <newbi> | so, finally i did it. opened notepad and made a hello world .hs file, compiled it using ghc and ran in powershell |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:54 | <geekosaur> | it's just a simplistic GUI over ghci |
| 2020-10-31 17:23:55 | <__monty__> | newbi: I think I'd recommend just using `ghci` from a shell and skipping the GUI. |
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| 2020-10-31 17:26:27 | <monsterchrom> | WinGHCI used to come with the Windows version of GHC. I haven't checked recently. Especially with how the GHC people no longer officially post a Windows version. |
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| 2020-10-31 17:27:47 | <monsterchrom> | I like __monty__'s advice. |
| 2020-10-31 17:27:50 | <newbi> | yea, teacher told us it should come installed with GHC but didnt. im just gonna stick with notepad++ and compile it in powershell. is this fine? |
| 2020-10-31 17:27:55 | <davean> | monsterchrom: what do you mean? Theres windows versions of GHC released |
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| 2020-10-31 17:29:08 | <monsterchrom> | Oops, they still do. Nevermind. |
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| 2020-10-31 17:29:49 | <monsterchrom> | Ah, they quitted the installer part. |
| 2020-10-31 17:30:01 | <merijn> | monsterchrom: And 32bit support on windows |
| 2020-10-31 17:30:15 | <geekosaur> | i386 windows is gone, x86_64 is still there |
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| 2020-10-31 17:30:35 | <merijn> | Not that anyone cares about 32bit anyway :p |
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| 2020-10-31 17:31:10 | <merijn> | newbi: just running ghci in powershell will work fine, that's basically what WinGHCI did anyway :p |
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| 2020-10-31 17:31:52 | <monsterchrom> | Still, you can't tell the average Windows-using student to simply take the tar.xz file and figure out what to do with it. |
| 2020-10-31 17:32:12 | <geekosaur> | but apparently some course or other assumes winghci is still included? |
| 2020-10-31 17:32:17 | <davean> | Are there still 32bit versions of windows available? |
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| 2020-10-31 17:32:24 | <merijn> | monsterchrom: The recommended way is via chocolatey, which I personally wouldn't recommend anyway |
| 2020-10-31 17:32:31 | <merijn> | davean: Not any supported ones |
| 2020-10-31 17:32:45 | <merijn> | davean: The only Windows versions that are not EOL are 64bit only |
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| 2020-10-31 17:33:08 | <monsterchrom> | And the chocolatey way may or may not give you WinGHCi. (I bet not.) |
| 2020-10-31 17:33:11 | <merijn> | davean: Which is why I strongly advocated for dropping it when that the discussion was in #ghc |
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| 2020-10-31 17:33:36 | <__monty__> | I suspect it's just a prof that's used to the GHC installed on lab and other uni computers. |
| 2020-10-31 17:33:37 | <davean> | merijn: I thought there were still supported ones, but not for new installs. But none of those places *would* install GHC |
| 2020-10-31 17:33:59 | <merijn> | Anyone whose big and legacy enough to still run 32bit machines clearly has plenty of money to pay for getting things working |
| 2020-10-31 17:34:03 | <__monty__> | newbi: Compiling your code is fine. GHCi is an interpreter though, can be useful to try things out in. |
| 2020-10-31 17:34:29 | <monsterchrom> | I want to point out the irony that no one knows what has really happened, and we are all talking wind. |
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| 2020-10-31 17:34:42 | <merijn> | monsterchrom: hmm? |
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| 2020-10-31 17:34:56 | <monsterchrom> | No one knows whether the asker is using the GHC HQ tar.xz file or chocolatey or what. |
| 2020-10-31 17:35:37 | <monsterchrom> | No one knows which version, is it 8.10.x or 7.4.x or 6.10.x or what. |
| 2020-10-31 17:35:53 | <monsterchrom> | No one knows what the asker has really tried or not tried. |
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| 2020-10-31 17:36:06 | <merijn> | monsterchrom: I think that's separate from the GHC 32bit windows discussion, though :p |
| 2020-10-31 17:36:29 | <monsterchrom> | No one knows whether the course instructor has shown using WinGHCi during class, or it's just the asker XY-problem it to "I think I need WinGHCi". |
| 2020-10-31 17:36:50 | <newbi> | okay, sorry for not being clear. i installed chocolatey, yes. but it didnt come with WinGHCi, but our teacher uses it |
| 2020-10-31 17:37:02 | <monsterchrom> | See? |
| 2020-10-31 17:37:07 | <newbi> | she says we should get it with chocolatey |
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| 2020-10-31 17:37:39 | <monsterchrom> | I haven't checked, but it is very likely newer GHC versions don't come with WinGHCi. Old versions did. |
| 2020-10-31 17:37:43 | <newbi> | the course is discontinued probably in the new programme, so im probably the last gen learning Haskell |
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| 2020-10-31 17:38:11 | <newbi> | im getting the hang of it now, thanks guys. |
| 2020-10-31 17:39:00 | <__monty__> | That's too bad. |
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| 2020-10-31 17:39:10 | <__monty__> | Consider yourself lucky ; ) |
| 2020-10-31 17:39:31 | <monsterchrom> | But what __monty__ said. Don't worry about WinGHCi, it doesn't have important extra features. Use ghci directly. This won't affect the *.hs files you will have to hand in. |
| 2020-10-31 17:40:01 | <newbi> | yea, it just looks easier the way she is using it |
| 2020-10-31 17:40:11 | <newbi> | i bet logic programming will come in handy |
| 2020-10-31 17:40:30 | <monsterchrom> | You will have to go through Window's "command prompt" though. |
| 2020-10-31 17:40:48 | <__monty__> | I love prolog+haskell courses. Some of the most mind boggling : ) |
| 2020-10-31 17:41:16 | <monsterchrom> | Oh, I just inflicted shfit/reset on my students yesterday in a similar course. |
| 2020-10-31 17:41:18 | <__monty__> | GHCi doesn't run in powershell? (That's the newer windows terminal is it not?) |
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| 2020-10-31 17:41:37 | <monsterchrom> | I haven't tried. I guess it works the same. |
| 2020-10-31 17:42:56 | <monsterchrom> | The only thing I care on my Windows box right now is I want the downloading of AoE3DE to finish but I don't want to be a bandwidth hog (wrt my family) so how many more hours do I have to wait. :) |
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