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| 2021-04-08 17:02:28 | <solvr> | "Functional programming is to turn on the light, you need to rebuild your house" |
| 2021-04-08 17:02:40 | <solvr> | How to avoid this |
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| 2021-04-08 17:03:20 | <[exa]> | solvr: why'd rebuild? |
| 2021-04-08 17:03:31 | <solvr> | Because it's immutable, duh :P |
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| 2021-04-08 17:03:37 | <dolio> | Stop reading blog posts. |
| 2021-04-08 17:03:42 | <[exa]> | +1 ^ |
| 2021-04-08 17:03:48 | <monochrom> | Any objection if I ban? |
| 2021-04-08 17:04:03 | <solvr> | Rly? |
| 2021-04-08 17:04:32 | <monochrom> | They were at this at length just a couple of days ago. |
| 2021-04-08 17:05:11 | <solvr> | Can you remind me? |
| 2021-04-08 17:05:14 | <[exa]> | what's the blog post though |
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| 2021-04-08 17:07:07 | monochrom | sets mode +b $a:solvr |
| 2021-04-08 17:07:09 | <sm[m]> | monochrom: yes, please try to minimise banning |
| 2021-04-08 17:07:20 | <geekosaur> | if this is who I think it is they were reading snoyberg's "the bad parts" and taking it as gospel |
| 2021-04-08 17:07:26 | <geekosaur> | and "how do I avoid all of this" |
| 2021-04-08 17:07:35 | <monochrom> | OK fine, your poison. |
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| 2021-04-08 17:09:17 | <[exa]> | whew, that was a heated discussion I guess |
| 2021-04-08 17:10:31 | <sm[m]> | how close are we to the ecosystem being ghc 9.0 ready, do you think |
| 2021-04-08 17:11:19 | <sm[m]> | I feel there should be some threshold at which to declare victory |
| 2021-04-08 17:12:26 | <sm[m]> | eg when ghc 9 appears in stackage nightly ? but last time, stackage nightly seemed really slow |
| 2021-04-08 17:12:37 | <monochrom> | I usually take a look at "ghcup list" and whichever one it says "recommended" is ready. |
| 2021-04-08 17:13:24 | <sm[m]> | when does that happen, maerwald ? |
| 2021-04-08 17:14:50 | <sm[m]> | I saw a haskell foundation proposal about tweaking GHC preview releases and encouraging packages to update promptly, but couldn't find it again |
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| 2021-04-08 17:15:23 | <sm[m]> | ok, google is my friend. https://discourse.haskell.org/t/ghc-proposal-ghc-maintainer-previews/2309 |
| 2021-04-08 17:16:37 | <monochrom> | geekosaur: I think the good-part-bad-part person was different, shalokshalom |
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| 2021-04-08 17:19:14 | <maerwald> | sm[m]: we look at a) are there outstanding serious bugs, b) how far is ecosystem adoption, c) is there a stackage version |
| 2021-04-08 17:19:30 | <maerwald> | for 9.0 there are still bugs |
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| 2021-04-08 17:21:59 | <sm[m]> | maerwald: I see.. good things to consider |
| 2021-04-08 17:22:02 | <cub3s_> | dmj`, interesting. so from that point of you, seems like you prefer haskell projects without any .nix files already in it |
| 2021-04-08 17:22:15 | <cub3s_> | dmj`, for otherwise you have to merge your stuff into existing stuff |
| 2021-04-08 17:22:22 | <sm[m]> | and I guess "is there a stackage version" depends on the other two |
| 2021-04-08 17:22:37 | <geekosaur> | so does the ecosystem, for that matter |
| 2021-04-08 17:23:44 | <sm[m]> | I like cdsmith's idea at https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/417 of notifying maintainers when their package is blocking the ecosystem |
| 2021-04-08 17:23:59 | <sm[m]> | ie, all your deps build with new ghc but you don't |
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| 2021-04-08 17:43:20 | <dmj`> | cub3s_: doesn't matter, you can choose to ignore the existing nix files in a project, or if its something hairy like building GHC itself (which really sucks), or building llvm, its nice to use pre-existing nix files |
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