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2021-03-28 15:22:02 <edwardk> pattern synonyms aren't updated to work with linear types yet
2021-03-28 15:22:20 <edwardk> so the matchers that get inserted will have the wrong types
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2021-03-28 15:25:44 <edwardk> oh wait, we don't care about Y being linear!
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2021-03-28 15:28:30 <edwardk> so close to working
2021-03-28 15:28:47 <edwardk> but the case analysis multiplicities get screwed, not just that Y has different counts
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2021-03-28 15:39:54 <edwardk> got it to work
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2021-03-28 15:43:55 <edwardk> https://github.com/ekmett/linear-logic/blob/main/src/Linear/Logic/Y.hs <- clearly that is the foundation upon which all logic should be built
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2021-03-28 15:44:27 <edwardk> note the ~~ even
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2021-03-28 15:47:54 <ski> what's the `~~' ?
2021-03-28 15:48:21 <ski> heterogenous equality ?
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2021-03-28 15:50:04 <edwardk> ski: yeah
2021-03-28 15:50:09 <edwardk> i j and k can be different kinds
2021-03-28 15:50:20 <Uniaika> I refuse to acknowledge the existence of this symbol if it has no entry in the Haskell Wiki
2021-03-28 15:50:26 <Uniaika> https://wiki.haskell.org/Keywords <- no ~~, ergo it does not exist
2021-03-28 15:50:33 <edwardk> its in Data.Type.Equality
2021-03-28 15:50:49 <edwardk> and post dates that list
2021-03-28 15:51:30 <Uniaika> curse, I will have to document it
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2021-03-28 15:53:53 <wz1000> Uniaika: it's not a keyword, is it? It is a legal identifier for a type operator
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2021-03-28 16:00:13 <Uniaika> wz1000: idk if it can be arbitrarily given to your own type operators, GHC.Types defines it with an empty class declaration (in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc-prim-0.6.1/docs/src/GHC.Types.html#~~ ) but since the comment right after it is a GHC Note, I would be inclined to say that it has a fair level of magic treatement by the compiler ;)
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2021-03-28 16:00:52 <mniip> ~~ can, ~ cannot
2021-03-28 16:01:29 <mniip> (~) is built-in syntax like (:)
2021-03-28 16:01:55 <Uniaika> mniip: even if it's also defined as an empty class declaration in GHC.Types?
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2021-03-28 16:01:59 <mniip> (~~) is a special constraint, but not actually a special identifier/syntax
2021-03-28 16:02:06 <Uniaika> oki doki
2021-03-28 16:02:17 <Uniaika> ah wait, you meant term-level (~)
2021-03-28 16:02:25 <mniip> I meant type level
2021-03-28 16:02:29 <Uniaika> oh okay
2021-03-28 16:02:52 <mniip> that class declaration is bogus anyway
2021-03-28 16:03:09 <Uniaika> I'm interested to know why :)
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2021-03-28 16:03:53 <mniip> that class declaration suggests that the dictionary for (a ~~ b) is an empty box
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2021-03-28 16:04:50 <mniip> it isn't
2021-03-28 16:05:35 <Uniaika> ah, tricky indeed
2021-03-28 16:05:45 <mniip> c.f. eq_sel and heq_sel
2021-03-28 16:05:58 <Uniaika> oh, int-index has had this GHC proposal open https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/371
2021-03-28 16:06:27 <Uniaika> mniip: I don't follow you
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2021-03-28 16:10:33 <mniip> ~~ has ~# as "superclass"
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2021-03-28 16:10:51 <mniip> i.e. the dictionary for (a ~~ b) has a "field" with (a ~# b)
2021-03-28 16:11:08 <mniip> this field is selected by a function called heq_sel
2021-03-28 16:11:23 <mniip> GHC.Types.heq_sel, I think
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2021-03-28 16:14:16 <mniip> (I
2021-03-28 16:14:30 <mniip> (I'm not sure what's preventing you from being able to look at it with :i)
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2021-03-28 16:15:29 <Uniaika> indeed :i doesn't show ~# as the superclass
2021-03-28 16:15:57 <mniip> % :i (~~)
2021-03-28 16:15:59 <yahb> mniip: type (~~) :: forall k0 k1. k0 -> k1 -> Constraint; class (a ~~ b) => (~~) a b; -- Defined in `GHC.Types'; infix 4 ~~
2021-03-28 16:16:04 <mniip> there is a superclass
2021-03-28 16:16:08 <wz1000> Uniaika: type a ~~ b = (a,b)
2021-03-28 16:16:10 <wz1000> that works
2021-03-28 16:16:16 <wz1000> if you set -XTypeOperators
2021-03-28 16:16:34 <Uniaika> wz1000: curse. Thanks! :)
2021-03-28 16:16:36 <mniip> however there's some machinery that translates primitive equalities back into surface haskell

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