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2020-11-23 10:24:19 <aplainzetakind> Ah I need this only to decode?
2020-11-23 10:24:26 <aplainzetakind> No encode.
2020-11-23 10:24:34 <merijn> You probably just wanna show the resulting Digest
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2020-11-23 10:25:06 <dminuoso> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/cryptonite-0.27/docs/src/Crypto.Hash.Types.html#line-86
2020-11-23 10:25:12 <merijn> That's what works for cryptonite
2020-11-23 10:25:12 <dminuoso> That seems to run it through base16-bytestring already indeed.
2020-11-23 10:25:19 <aplainzetakind> merijn: Argh, it has Show. OK.
2020-11-23 10:25:24 <merijn> And this seems to use the same API
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2020-11-23 10:26:21 fendor_ is now known as fendor
2020-11-23 10:26:35 <aplainzetakind> Yes using show in place of T.unpack . T.decodeUtf8 . md5DigestBytes just works.
2020-11-23 10:26:37 <aplainzetakind> Thanks.
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2020-11-23 10:32:20 <cads> maerwald, thank you thank thank you for caring about wsl users!
2020-11-23 10:32:57 <maerwald> I think native ghcup on windows could be a thing too, but I haven't had anyone knowledgable about msys2 speak up on how to do it.
2020-11-23 10:33:23 <maerwald> And handling that right basically determines most of the user experience.
2020-11-23 10:33:45 <cads> imo anything that does linux on windows and uses mingw/msys rather than wsl is now a smell
2020-11-23 10:34:04 <cads> but I don't REALLY know what I am talking about, lmao
2020-11-23 10:34:14 <cads> just using that internally
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2020-11-23 10:34:50 <cads> but it makes sense from the perspective of how much msft is investing in it, and how much more comfortable it is
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2020-11-23 10:35:42 <cads> does ghcup compete with stack? Or can I see it as part of?
2020-11-23 10:36:46 <maerwald> cads: not really. I personally use stack and ghcup together in some docker images to build static executables (because ghcup provides alpine bindists that stack doesn't)
2020-11-23 10:37:06 <maerwald> you can tell stack to use system GHCs and then use ghcup to manage them
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2020-11-23 10:37:54 <maerwald> but stack doesn't help you much when you want to use cabal with multiple GHCs
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2020-11-23 10:38:36 <maerwald> so you could say cabal + ghcup is kind of a substitute for stack for some use cases
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2020-11-23 10:38:41 <cads> and how much user share can we estimate it pulls? Is it well enough accepted for Darcs installation instructions to mention it? Currently they mention stack, and cabal. IMO these aren't the beginning of the story in windows, but ghcup is.
2020-11-23 10:39:02 <cads> https://darcsbook.acmelabs.space/chapter02.html#installing-darcs
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2020-11-23 10:42:50 tomsmeding is a happy user of ghcup, please spread
2020-11-23 10:43:12 <maerwald> I'm not sure, the last haskell survey result had a data bug, but it's probably somewhere between 9-20%
2020-11-23 10:43:51 <cads> oo, we have a survey?
2020-11-23 10:43:55 <maerwald> https://taylor.fausak.me/2019/11/16/haskell-survey-results/#s2q1
2020-11-23 10:44:03 <maerwald> https://taylor.fausak.me/2020/11/22/haskell-survey-results/#s2q1
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