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2021-03-04 05:49:03 <jackdk> there's also a haskell-gi lib that uses GObject introspection to do gtk
2021-03-04 05:49:29 <boxscape> wow some throwbacks to the last millenium
2021-03-04 05:49:29 <jackdk> upon which https://github.com/owickstrom/gi-gtk-declarative is built
2021-03-04 05:50:15 <jackdk> https://owickstrom.github.io/declarative-gtk-programming-in-haskell/ may be a helpful getting-started
2021-03-04 05:50:41 <jackdk> qih: that's beautiful! I can see exactly which things are controls, and know what to click where
2021-03-04 05:50:59 <Axman6> http://hackage.haskell.org/package/fltkhs-0.8.0.3/docs/Graphics-UI-FLTK-LowLevel-FLTKHS.html#g:3 is worth taking note of
2021-03-04 05:51:41 <koz_> I always wonder at the term 'look and feel' for GUIs.
2021-03-04 05:51:42 <Axman6> https://github.com/deech/fltkhs-themes-demo
2021-03-04 05:51:55 <koz_> Like, last I checked, GUI didn't have the term 'tactile' in it.
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2021-03-04 05:52:42 <qih> jackdk: I know right! He's done a really solid job of making that UI 10/10
2021-03-04 05:52:47 <Axman6> Wouldn't be surprised of FLTK has a braille interface :P
2021-03-04 05:52:50 <boxscape> koz_ it might refer to how it responds to inputs
2021-03-04 05:53:03 <koz_> boxscape: Yeah, makes sense, I'm just nitpicking. :P
2021-03-04 05:53:27 <Axman6> jackdk: excuse me who doesn't like a hamburger button as interface interface?
2021-03-04 05:53:32 <boxscape> (Though I suspect people have also been using "look and feel" for static sites)
2021-03-04 05:53:35 <qih> Axman6: Ctrl-D'd for sure.
2021-03-04 05:54:56 <jackdk> Axman6: I prefer programs where all operations are behind the `M-x` button, like a civilised person
2021-03-04 05:55:04 <Axman6> to me, that means close stdin
2021-03-04 05:55:15 <qih> boxscape: 'Look & Feel' ... marketing leet speak of little merit.
2021-03-04 05:56:51 <jackdk> Axman6: technically it sends the contents of the tty buffer without waiting for EOL
2021-03-04 05:57:09 <jackdk> qih: m4rk3ting sp33k?
2021-03-04 05:57:23 <qih> I want to make some simple Haskell-UI widgets to run on a bunch of machines, to simulate agents for a DAML. Hence the interest in Lightweight UI.
2021-03-04 05:57:29 <qih> jackdk: Snicker.
2021-03-04 05:57:29 <Axman6> jackdk: whatever, nerd 8)
2021-03-04 05:59:13 <qih> I might ask that as a question on the DAML forum, about simulations of agents from an almost RT perspective. I 'spose someone will tell me there is already a lib for that ...
2021-03-04 05:59:32 Axman6 awaits jackdk recommending Reflex
2021-03-04 06:00:21 <Axman6> qih: have you done the tutorial which creates a web ui? I was very impressed with the real-time nature of it
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2021-03-04 06:02:01 <Axman6> DAML + Reflex would be quite cool actually
2021-03-04 06:02:08 <qih> Axman6: Ah the 'social media' one?
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2021-03-04 06:02:45 <Axman6> I think it was just a chat app, but maybe
2021-03-04 06:03:27 <qih> Yes that's it. I have, had all the DAML stuff in, was working through the tutorials then the motherboard died.
2021-03-04 06:04:08 <koz_> qih: That bodes well. :P
2021-03-04 06:04:37 <qih> That was really cool. The instant nature of the network comms was not unlike Erlang's GEN_Server ... I was hooked 8-)
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2021-03-04 06:07:29 <koz_> Wow, my tiny MR has now had comments from both Simon and Edward.
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2021-03-04 06:11:50 <qih> Oh, on the DAML Core Team?
2021-03-04 06:12:48 <koz_> qih: No, on GHC.
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2021-03-04 06:13:37 <qih> OK, still, congrats
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2021-03-04 06:14:30 <koz_> qih: Thanks!
2021-03-04 06:14:53 <koz_> Axman6: DAML + Reflex = DAMLflex?
2021-03-04 06:16:22 <Axman6> ReflAML
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2021-03-04 06:17:29 <qih> Sounds like a fancy pharmaceutical ... Reflamil.
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2021-03-04 06:17:49 <koz_> qih: Take it to resolve all your IRL async issues.
2021-03-04 06:17:54 <qih> I smell a C&D letter coming on.
2021-03-04 06:18:06 <qih> Haha excellent, thanks.
2021-03-04 06:19:34 <qih> Async I am hungry.
2021-03-04 06:20:42 <koz_> Async that pun was ungodly.
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2021-03-04 06:22:02 <qih> Haha, no, it was *awesome*
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2021-03-04 06:34:47 <qih__> Well that was fun.
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2021-03-04 07:26:31 <bahamas> what would need to change for this error to be clearer?
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2021-03-04 07:26:33 <bahamas> [Just 4, Nothing, Just 'a']
2021-03-04 07:26:46 <bahamas> No instance for (Num Char) arising from the literal ‘4’
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