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2020-11-04 08:59:57 → nefercheprure joins (tma@twin.jikos.cz)
2020-11-04 09:00:05 <dminuoso> Also it ensures you never leave your working free in an uncompilable state.
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2020-11-04 09:00:28 <dminuoso> Can we bring it back in?
2020-11-04 09:00:29 <[exa]> is this the future?
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2020-11-04 09:02:07 <[exa]> dminuoso: not everyone will really like it, I suggest -XPenance
2020-11-04 09:02:53 <bqv> -fno-sacrilege
2020-11-04 09:03:26 <[exa]> :]
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2020-11-04 09:05:40 <maerwald> merijn: prelude made it impossible to ship that patch
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2020-11-04 09:24:20 <dminuoso> [exa]: Will it be part of glasgow-exts?
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2020-11-04 09:24:50 <dminuoso> Also, perhaps we could enable it by default with TypeInType
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2020-11-04 09:29:14 <typetetris> Is there a compiler/rts option to always open stdin and the like in binary mode?
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2020-11-04 09:34:43 <nshepperd> sounds like https://github.com/munificent/vigil
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2020-11-04 09:36:25 <merijn> typetetris: Eh...there is no such thing?
2020-11-04 09:36:36 <merijn> typetetris: Do you mean unbuffered, maybe?
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2020-11-04 09:42:02 <__monty__> Or maybe raw or cbreak terminal mode?
2020-11-04 09:43:56 <merijn> Way to flex that obscure pseudo-terminal knowledge :p
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2020-11-04 09:44:52 <typetetris> `https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.14.0.0/docs/System-IO.html#v:hSetBinaryMode`
2020-11-04 09:45:50 <__monty__> merijn: That's what happens when you arm people with APUE : )
2020-11-04 09:45:52 <typetetris> Just had a pesky problem, where a program failed writing to stdout as the encoding associated with stdout was not able to represent all chars. An alternative to binary mode would be, to an encoding with replacement chars as default.
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2020-11-04 09:46:34 <merijn> Or setting the right encoding? :p
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2020-11-04 09:46:58 <arahael> How would binary mode fix that?
2020-11-04 09:47:13 <typetetris> arahael: binary mode sets char8 as encoding, which never fails.
2020-11-04 09:47:22 <arahael> typetetris: So it corrupts the data?
2020-11-04 09:47:36 <typetetris> merijn: Yes. We tried. Didn't work. with-utf8 was the rescue.
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2020-11-04 09:51:43 <tomsmeding> typetetris: does it work if you redirect the output to a file? So keep stdout in the usual text mode, but avoid actually writing it to the terminal
2020-11-04 09:52:06 <tomsmeding> (i.e. is haskell the problem or the terminal)
2020-11-04 09:53:01 <merijn> typetetris: eh, char8 doesn't fail, it just corrupts your output :p
2020-11-04 09:53:19 <merijn> typetetris: What are you outputting and to what?
2020-11-04 09:53:24 <typetetris> tomsmeding: We had a clear `<stdout>: invalid argument (invalid character)` exception. So the handle being set to an encoding not able to handle the output was the culprit.
2020-11-04 09:53:48 <tomsmeding> haskell threw that exception? ah
2020-11-04 09:53:50 <maerwald> ah I remeber that, you have to force encoding in your main, there's a ghc ticket
2020-11-04 09:53:50 <typetetris> merijn: Log output to be consumed by human readers. A replacement char here and there doesn't hurt.
2020-11-04 09:54:00 <typetetris> tomsmeding: yes
2020-11-04 09:54:47 <tomsmeding> what maerwald said, or perhaps (to avoid changing your program) pipe the output of your program through another program first that fixes up invalid characters (that may or may not work)
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2020-11-04 09:54:52 <merijn> I mean, you can just use the IO functions from ByteString to write out stuff
2020-11-04 09:54:54 <tomsmeding> (not sure about windows' semantics in that regard)
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2020-11-04 09:55:05 <typetetris> maerwald: And remember not only to use `setLocalEncoding` but also `hSetEncoding` (or some such) on all three `stdin`, `stdout` and `stderr`. That is at least unexpected for the haskell beginner comming from c :)
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2020-11-04 09:55:52 <typetetris> merijn: Thats true. It is an existing codebase and up to now, there hasn't been fancy chars in the output.
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2020-11-04 09:56:09 <dminuoso> typetetris: Set the correct locale?
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2020-11-04 09:57:02 <maerwald> typetetris: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/8118
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2020-11-04 09:57:06 <tomsmeding> I have a hard time believing that bytestring IO functions will avoid this exception
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2020-11-04 09:57:11 <typetetris> dminuoso: The program is sadly called in a convoluted process and our attempts to push `LANG` and `LC_CTYPE` settings to it failed. I know, thats bad, but it is what it is.
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2020-11-04 09:57:29 <maerwald> This is a ghc bug
2020-11-04 09:57:31 <typetetris> tomsmeding: Yes.
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