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2020-11-12 08:55:31 <benschza> tomsmeding: Thanks! I'll give that a try.
2020-11-12 08:55:46 <[exa]> benschza: btw if you didn't use a type hole yet, now is the time :]
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2020-11-12 08:57:40 <benschza> [exa]: I'll have to Google that :) Thanks for the pointer.
2020-11-12 08:57:51 <merijn> tomsmeding: In the end, I understand why the desire path is there, but some things are required/blocked for a reason, see also: people complaining about needing to write out module lists, people complaining about maintaining upperbounds, etc.
2020-11-12 08:58:20 <tomsmeding> true enough
2020-11-12 08:58:23 <merijn> As always, these problems are "trivial" if you just throw long term stability/usability under the bus
2020-11-12 08:58:44 <merijn> But if you think about how things should work long term, it just can't work
2020-11-12 08:58:54 <[exa]> benschza: basically you add ` :: _ ` after anything and the compiler reports on what it thinks should be in place of the _
2020-11-12 08:59:19 <[exa]> (same for values)
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2020-11-12 09:06:39 <daydaynatation> merijn: cabal complain that it doesn recognize --projectfile=...
2020-11-12 09:06:50 <daydaynatation> is it the right flag? I checked ont he user guide, couldn't find
2020-11-12 09:06:52 <merijn> oh, maybe it's --project-file?
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2020-11-12 09:07:49 <daydaynatation> thx
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2020-11-12 09:19:55 <maerwald> was there a cabal helper tool that bumps version bounds of your package?
2020-11-12 09:20:33 <merijn> I think someone was working on one at some point?
2020-11-12 09:21:11 <maerwald> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/cabal-bounds
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2020-11-12 09:30:34 <dminuoso> Is there a safe variant of fromIntegral anywhere?
2020-11-12 09:30:54 <dminuoso> I need runtime verification, not static.
2020-11-12 09:31:13 <merijn> dminuoso: I recommend a strong whisky and crying :)
2020-11-12 09:31:40 <maerwald> Glendronach 21
2020-11-12 09:31:57 <merijn> Sadness goes better with Islay
2020-11-12 09:32:03 <dminuoso> maerwald: Does that go well with Cola or better in tea?
2020-11-12 09:32:07 <maerwald> dude
2020-11-12 09:32:17 <merijn> dminuoso: I know you're joking and I'm still mad
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2020-11-12 09:32:41 <dminuoso> merijn: I have quite a few whiskey fans, it triggers them every time. ;)
2020-11-12 09:33:09 <dminuoso> Or *whisky I guess
2020-11-12 09:33:09 <merijn> Whisky cola is fine, but just use shitty whisky >.>
2020-11-12 09:33:16 <maerwald> so you're a whisky?
2020-11-12 09:33:38 <merijn> Good whisky in cola ruins both your whisky and your cola (and your wallet) :p
2020-11-12 09:33:41 <dminuoso> Maybe the problem is that whisky connoisseurs don't use high quality cola for mixing their whisky.
2020-11-12 09:34:04 <[exa]> "high-quality cola" please elaborate
2020-11-12 09:34:11 <dminuoso> On a slightly more serious note, Im pondering getting these "cooling stones" for whisky.
2020-11-12 09:34:18 <dminuoso> But not for cooling it, but for heating rum.
2020-11-12 09:34:52 <dminuoso> Getting rum up to 25-28 degrees brings out quite a few flavors
2020-11-12 09:35:09 <merijn> I recommend we move this to offtopic :p
2020-11-12 09:35:13 <dminuoso> Indeed.
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2020-11-12 09:40:30 hackage polysemy-extra 0.1.3.0 - Extra Input and Output functions for polysemy.. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/polysemy-extra-0.1.3.0 (locallycompact)
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2020-11-12 09:50:39 <dminuoso> merijn: on a more serious note, am I expected to just manually compare with maxBound?
2020-11-12 09:50:58 <dminuoso> Why is there no freaking numeric conversion with error handling in base?
2020-11-12 09:51:29 <dminuoso> Is it just assumed that narrowing cant possibly happening? Or that when it happens, its semantics (what are they?) are obviously what you want?
2020-11-12 09:51:33 <merijn> dminuoso: On a more seriouse note, I had to handroll it and you get awkward conversion too
2020-11-12 09:51:52 <dminuoso> Dont people ever deal with numbers? :(
2020-11-12 09:52:04 <dminuoso> Im so close to just use Integer everywhere.
2020-11-12 09:52:06 <merijn> dminuoso: I welcome any suggestions/things in GHC that improve this
2020-11-12 09:52:29 <merijn> dminuoso: It's somewhere down on my yak shaving list
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2020-11-12 09:57:30 hackage phonetic-languages-constraints 0.3.0.1 - Constraints to filter the needed permutations https://hackage.haskell.org/package/phonetic-languages-constraints-0.3.0.1 (OleksandrZhabenko)
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2020-11-12 10:05:31 hackage polysemy-extra 0.1.4.0 - Extra Input and Output functions for polysemy.. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/polysemy-extra-0.1.4.0 (locallycompact)
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