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2021-05-03 12:04:55 <olligobber> hmm, it didn't work
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2021-05-03 12:07:13 <olligobber> ah, I need to use type applications so it knows what I'm unioning
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2021-05-03 12:20:31 <viluon> hi, is there a tool which would expose demand signatures in a more user-friendly way than looking for them in Core output?
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2021-05-03 12:22:13 <viluon> it'd probably be best to show them with HLS (on hover), if there's a clear mapping from Core back to the surface syntax. I don't expect a tool like that to exist, but I'm asking just in case
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2021-05-03 12:51:45 hackage splitmix-distributions 0.6.0.0 - Random samplers for some common distributions, based on splitmix. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/splitmix-distributions-0.6.0.0 (ocramz)
2021-05-03 12:53:14 hackage irc-client 1.1.2.1 - An IRC client library. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/irc-client-1.1.2.1 (barrucadu)
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2021-05-03 13:03:15 hackage hspec-golden 0.2.0.0 - Golden tests for hspec https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hspec-golden-0.2.0.0 (stackbuilders)
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2021-05-03 13:12:15 hackage splitmix-distributions 0.7.0.0 - Random samplers for some common distributions, based on splitmix. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/splitmix-distributions-0.7.0.0 (ocramz)
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2021-05-03 13:36:23 <timCF> Hello! Does anybody know how to pass type information to dispatch instance implementation without passing values? Usually people are using `Proxy` type. It works, sure. But look of it is not the best. Does anybody know better alternatives?
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2021-05-03 13:50:31 <merijn> timCF: There's *worse* alternatives, but not better ones
2021-05-03 13:52:01 <merijn> I mean, the best alternative would be "don't dispatch on types that aren't in the interface", but when you have to do that (P|p)roxy is the most robust way
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2021-05-03 13:52:46 <merijn> There are heathens that advocate for -XTypeApplications, but that is a *great* way to make your API brittle and requiring very defensive upperbounds
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2021-05-03 13:52:52 aplainze1akind is now known as aplainzetakind
2021-05-03 13:53:14 hackage pandoc-plot 1.2.0 - A Pandoc filter to include figures generated from code blocks using your plotting toolkit of choice. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/pandoc-plot-1.2.0 (LaurentRDC)
2021-05-03 13:53:58 <timCF> merijn: thanks!
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2021-05-03 13:57:12 <merijn> timCF: The problem with TypeApplications is that it makes your code rely on the order that type variables are "forall"-ed into types, and if that changes, the code breaks. But 99% of the code of hackage doesn't consider that part of the public API, so anyone refactoring to add an explicit forall (for ScopedTypeVariables, for example) will break your code
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