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2020-10-27 09:52:12 <siggard> Hello. I come to you from iOS dev world and started studing Haskell with book "Learn You a Haskell for Great Good!". Before that I played a bit with Scala and did that basic Scala course by Martin Odersky.
2020-10-27 09:52:51 <siggard> There is no slack channel nor gitter for Haskell community, isn't it? :-)
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2020-10-27 09:54:41 <merijn> I'm sure someone has made something like that at some point
2020-10-27 09:55:00 <merijn> tbh, LYAH isn't a particularly great book
2020-10-27 09:55:35 <Zetagon> there is a functional programming zulip
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2020-10-27 09:57:14 <siggard> merijn: What would you recommen for someone who has programmed in object oriented environment for last 10 years? :-)
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2020-10-27 09:58:36 <Cale> siggard: I often recommend "Programming in Haskell" by Graham Hutton as a good intro.
2020-10-27 09:58:36 <merijn> There's "Programming in Haskell" by Graham Hutton, "Thinking Functionally with Haskell" by Richard Bird and of course https://haskellbook.com/
2020-10-27 09:59:04 <merijn> siggard: The problem with LYAH is: It's not greatly structured, glosses over some details, and has no exercises (and kinda dated)
2020-10-27 09:59:18 <Rembane> It has cute images though
2020-10-27 09:59:26 <merijn> So the end result is that LYAH is great at "showing you cool things", but not so great in preparing you to "write actual code that does something"
2020-10-27 09:59:50 <merijn> LYAH is importance/relevance is mostly historical
2020-10-27 10:00:05 <merijn> In that it came out when there wasn't that much written about Haskell that was accessible
2020-10-27 10:00:21 <Zetagon> I like https://www.seas.upenn.edu/~cis194/spring13/lectures.html . I'm not sure how good the introduction is because I didn't read it, but I like the last few parts
2020-10-27 10:00:42 <merijn> And helped start (well, fuel, maybe?) the semi-mainstream popularity of Haskell
2020-10-27 10:01:26 <merijn> I remember it coming out and the only other text I could find was the infamous tutorial :p
2020-10-27 10:01:39 <merijn> @quote Brend whoever.named
2020-10-27 10:01:39 <lambdabot> No quotes match. Are you on drugs?
2020-10-27 10:01:41 <merijn> aww
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2020-10-27 10:02:02 <merijn> @quote Brend
2020-10-27 10:02:02 <lambdabot> Brend says: Whoever chose the title "A Gentle Introduction to Haskell" is obviously accustomed to wrestling bears in piranha pits or something.
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2020-10-27 10:06:33 <siggard> Thanks people. I will take a look on your recommendations. :-) Zetagon thanks, it looks like this course is from 2013 but there are homeworks so maybe it'll be easier to follow. Thanks!
2020-10-27 10:06:56 <siggard> merijn: "infamous tutorial"? ;-)
2020-10-27 10:07:11 <Zetagon> siggard: I particularily like the functor homeworks
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2020-10-27 10:11:06 <siggard> Cale: looks like i have that Haskell Book in my emoyer's library. But it's in PDF only which makes it hard to read on Kindle. :D
2020-10-27 10:11:19 <siggard> But you think it's worth it, right?
2020-10-27 10:12:42 <merijn> siggard: See the above quote :p
2020-10-27 10:13:01 <merijn> siggard: There's an e-reader PDF version too, iirc
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2020-10-27 10:22:52 <ulidtko> does Cabal's build-type: Simple support distributing custom files?
2020-10-27 10:23:40 <dcoutts__> ulidtko: do you mean installing extra files, or just including extra files into the source tarball?
2020-10-27 10:23:45 <ulidtko> I can see there're apis like installOrdinaryFile in Distribution.Simple.Utils, but not sure how to use that
2020-10-27 10:23:54 <ulidtko> dcoutts__, the former, installing
2020-10-27 10:24:22 <dcoutts__> ulidtko: no it just supports installing header files I think
2020-10-27 10:24:40 <merijn> You can install data files
2020-10-27 10:24:57 <merijn> So it depends exactly what these files are for
2020-10-27 10:24:57 <dcoutts__> oh yes, and data files
2020-10-27 10:25:05 dcoutts__ is now known as dcoutts
2020-10-27 10:25:11 <ulidtko> exactly, data files is what i need
2020-10-27 10:25:20 <ulidtko> any guide links?..
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2020-10-27 10:26:30 <merijn> ulidtko: https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cabal-package.html#accessing-data-files-from-package-code
2020-10-27 10:27:00 <ulidtko> merijn, thank you
2020-10-27 10:27:18 <merijn> ulidtko: and https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cabal-package.html#pkg-field-data-files
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