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2021-03-01 08:40:51 <ski> jamestmartin : i'd guess it's not
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2021-03-01 09:16:25 <nha> are there any similar alternatives to the reader monad without having to use monads? I have something similar to a catamorphism but the reduction is sensitive to the depth of terms crossed, so it needs an extra parameter describing this depth. Is there such a thing as a context sensitive functor and algebra?
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2021-03-01 09:21:03 <tomsmeding> nha: taking an additional parameter does not work?
2021-03-01 09:21:16 <tomsmeding> (note that, incidentally, (e ->) is precisely the Reader monad)
2021-03-01 09:21:30 <merijn> I like how the "small haskell exe" post on reddit goes through excessive efforts that will likely harm performance, but skips --split-sections and stripping >.>
2021-03-01 09:21:43 <merijn> Also, dynamic linking to pretend that shrinks actual install size >.>
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2021-03-01 09:22:56 <tomsmeding> well it might if you install the same application twice ;)
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2021-03-01 09:24:19 <lortabac> nha: there is ImplicitParams
2021-03-01 09:24:49 <lortabac> https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/latest/docs/html/users_guide/exts/implicit_parameters.html
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2021-03-01 09:49:33 <nha> tomsmeding: the parameter has to be threaded the functor and algebra, which is fine but then the two don't match the type of Functor (F a -> F b) and Algebra (F c -> c) since they would be (z -> F a -> F b) and (z -> F c -> c)
2021-03-01 09:50:58 <nha> tomsmeding: the reader monad imposes an order on the reduction, which I don't strictly need. The context is sensitive to the term depth not preorder/postorder ranking, so monad is overkill.
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2021-03-01 09:52:13 <nha> lortabac: dynamic binding would be nice but I can't use it since i'm writing in a haskell-like style in a different language which doesn't have dynamic binding.
2021-03-01 09:52:48 <nha> i'm mostly just curious if there is any variety of functor or algebra similar to what I need
2021-03-01 09:54:15 <lortabac> nha: Reader is also a functor
2021-03-01 09:54:36 <lortabac> if monad is overkill you can use its functor/applicative instance
2021-03-01 09:55:20 <ski> nha : "imposes an order on the reduction" -- in which sense ?
2021-03-01 09:56:32 <ski> (i guess you want to work in a Kleisli category, or something)
2021-03-01 09:57:55 <ski> > (do undefined; x <- (2 +); undefined; y <- (3 +); return (x * y)) 1

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