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2020-10-07 00:04:59 <sm[m]> apt-get update, composer upgrade, brew upgrade - all of these you expect to download and install new software, that's their only purpose; cabal build - not so much, unless you've learned that "build" means "upgrade-and-build"
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2020-10-07 00:06:27 hackage XSaiga 1.7.0.0 - An implementation of a polynomial-time top-down parser suitable for NLP https://hackage.haskell.org/package/XSaiga-1.7.0.0 (InBetweenNames)
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2020-10-07 00:19:27 <sh4rm4^bnc> hello, i'm wondering whether JHC compiler could be used to translate a haskell project i'm interested in into portable C code which i could use to compile that project on systems where i dont have a haskell compiler available
2020-10-07 00:20:02 <sh4rm4^bnc> ftr, that's the compiler in question http://repetae.net/computer/jhc/manual.html
2020-10-07 00:20:44 <sh4rm4^bnc> supposedly it can produce C, but it's not described whether that's portable C or tailored to the system/arch it's been invoked on (e.g. like pypy)
2020-10-07 00:20:56 <sm[m]> more precisely, it can mean "build" or "upgrade-and-build" depending on whether you ran cabal update. (I assume cabal doesn't do that automatically like stack does.) This is non-obvious statefulness making cabal more complicated than those tools where the command tells all
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2020-10-07 00:22:40 <sm[m]> hello sh4rm4^bnc. I'd guess it's worth a try for small amounts of haskell, but unlikely to compile anything off hackage
2020-10-07 00:23:17 <ghoulguy> sh4rm4^bnc: As far as I know JHC isn't being maintained. The README does mention something about cross-compiling: https://github.com/jimcrayne/jhc#cross-compiling
2020-10-07 00:23:47 <sh4rm4^bnc> sm[m], the project i'm intereted in is https://github.com/diku-kmc/kleenexlang . can i see whether it uses "hackage" ?
2020-10-07 00:24:04 <sm[m]> it won't build that
2020-10-07 00:25:02 <sm[m]> (because that's a modern haskell codebase, depending on many other modern haskell packages, and JHC is much older)
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2020-10-07 00:26:03 <sm[m]> and is not GHC. Basically most haskell packages require GHC (and a specific range of versions of it)
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2020-10-07 00:26:15 <sh4rm4^bnc> ah :/
2020-10-07 00:26:34 <ghoulguy> What platform are you targetting?
2020-10-07 00:27:32 <sh4rm4^bnc> my own distro sabotage linux (based on musl libc)
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2020-10-07 00:28:18 <sh4rm4^bnc> once a contributor tried to bootstrap GHC from source but he gave up
2020-10-07 00:28:43 <sh4rm4^bnc> i don't know the details, but iirc it was a very involving process
2020-10-07 00:28:48 <sm[m]> #ghc might be more help (in a few hours)
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2020-10-07 00:30:21 <sm[m]> I suspect what matters more is the architecture
2020-10-07 00:30:42 <sh4rm4^bnc> we support mips, arm, powerpc... and intel ofc
2020-10-07 00:31:22 <sh4rm4^bnc> though in this case it's just me wanting to toy with kleenex, so x86_64 would be sufficient for the experiment
2020-10-07 00:31:30 <sm[m]> I believe people sometimes link haskell programs with musl, on intel. Don't know if that works for GHC also
2020-10-07 00:31:58 hackage http-date 0.0.10 - HTTP Date parser/formatter https://hackage.haskell.org/package/http-date-0.0.10 (KazuYamamoto)
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2020-10-07 01:13:57 hackage j 0.1.0.0 - J in Haskell https://hackage.haskell.org/package/j-0.1.0.0 (vmchale)
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