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| 2021-04-19 06:21:26 | <Axman6> | lechner: you want Text for anything related to text. it contains functrions for decoding and encoding ByteStrings using UTF-8 |
| 2021-04-19 06:23:25 | <Axman6> | lechner: Looks like System.Cmd is deprecated, keep in mind that Real World Haskell is over a decade old now (and makes me feel very old), so there are lots of things that are no longer true |
| 2021-04-19 06:24:18 | <opqdonut> | an annotated version would be nice |
| 2021-04-19 06:24:30 | <opqdonut> | I guess the RWH web version has commenting, maybe the comments have pointed out deprecations? |
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| 2021-04-19 06:24:48 | <sm[m]> | lechner: the haddock for System.Process probably indicates what's new and what's old |
| 2021-04-19 06:24:49 | <Axman6> | someone started a github repo to rewrite it IIRC |
| 2021-04-19 06:25:24 | <Axman6> | https://github.com/tssm/up-to-date-real-world-haskell |
| 2021-04-19 06:25:38 | <opqdonut> | nice |
| 2021-04-19 06:26:21 | <opqdonut> | looks fairly complete already, cool |
| 2021-04-19 06:27:16 | <Axman6> | most of it hasn't been touched for a long time though |
| 2021-04-19 06:27:37 | <opqdonut> | yeah work might've fizzled out |
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| 2021-04-19 06:36:05 | <Irenes> | hey so uh |
| 2021-04-19 06:36:16 | <Axman6> | uh oh no |
| 2021-04-19 06:36:25 | <Irenes> | I used to be a regular here but left some years ago |
| 2021-04-19 06:36:39 | <Irenes> | I'm coming to apologize for something that happened a long time ago |
| 2021-04-19 06:36:47 | <Irenes> | I don't know whether anyone still remembers - maybe some of the mods |
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| 2021-04-19 06:37:18 | <Irenes> | this was in 2014. there was a conflict between me and someone called StoneCypher, who I did not know and don't really remember; I don't know whether they still come here. |
| 2021-04-19 06:37:18 | <Axman6> | Your name is vaguely familiar to me... |
| 2021-04-19 06:37:25 | <Irenes> | yeah likewise |
| 2021-04-19 06:37:35 | <Irenes> | at the time, I found it inexplicable |
| 2021-04-19 06:37:52 | <Irenes> | I went back and re-read those chatlogs recently and I realized that my behavior was pretty obnoxious |
| 2021-04-19 06:37:56 | <Irenes> | which, like |
| 2021-04-19 06:38:04 | <Irenes> | not a total surprise to me |
| 2021-04-19 06:38:14 | <Irenes> | I was raised to be an asshole and it took me a long time to learn better |
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| 2021-04-19 06:38:34 | <Irenes> | but I kind of thought I'd gotten there by 2014 |
| 2021-04-19 06:38:46 | <Irenes> | anyway, to anyone who had to deal with it, especially the mods, sorry about that |
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| 2021-04-19 06:38:51 | <Irenes> | I know it made a lot of work for the mods |
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| 2021-04-19 06:39:13 | <Irenes> | I'm not planning to stick around but I'll wait like half an hour or something in case anyone wants to reply, and I'm signed in to Freenode generally these days |
| 2021-04-19 06:39:25 | <Irenes> | I expect nobody has anything to say about that but I wanted to say it just in case |
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| 2021-04-19 06:40:21 | <opqdonut> | I was definitely around in 2014 but I don't remember this incident, but I appreciate you taking the effort to apologize now |
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| 2021-04-19 06:40:34 | <Axman6> | I mean, you could do a @where ops if you want to ring their bells. |
| 2021-04-19 06:40:41 | <[exa]> | Irenes: well if you're still using haskell and in the mood of helping the community I guess you're welcome. also there are now two offtopic channels for whatever heated discussions :D |
| 2021-04-19 06:41:07 | <Axman6> | I also don't remember it, I can certainly remember incidents in other channels going back further than that though, so it can't have been too horrendous. We're all assholes on the internet sometimes |
| 2021-04-19 06:41:15 | <MarcelineVQ> | lel |
| 2021-04-19 06:41:38 | <Irenes> | I'm into Rust these days, but thank you very much :) |
| 2021-04-19 06:41:45 | <Irenes> | Axman6 that's good to hear |
| 2021-04-19 06:42:49 | <Axman6> | we need more Rust people around too. I'd love to have good integration between Haskell and Rust |
| 2021-04-19 06:43:27 | <Irenes> | heh, well, thank you then :) I might as well at least idle |
| 2021-04-19 06:43:49 | [exa] | .oO(idle for victory!!!11) |
| 2021-04-19 06:44:00 | <Irenes> | if we're going to stick around you are going to see us intermittently use plural pronouns; cf. https://pluralpride.com/playbook for an explanation |
| 2021-04-19 06:44:43 | <Axman6> | they are welcome to use whatever language can be parsed and understood |
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| 2021-04-19 06:45:54 | <Irenes> | thank you very much. really appreciated. "you" and "y'all" are both fine in second-person, they/them is for third person. |
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| 2021-04-19 06:46:06 | <Irenes> | there was a huge controversy in the 18th century about whether "singular you" was proper English. |
| 2021-04-19 06:46:19 | <Irenes> | the outcome was that it works fine for both singular and plural ;) |
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| 2021-04-19 06:46:57 | <[exa]> | Irenes: you're in a channel full of mathematicians who write 99% of the text with 'we prove the theorem' :] |
| 2021-04-19 06:47:22 | <Irenes> | yeah tbh when we were kids we used to go out of our way to use "we" in code comments. we told ourselves it was including the reader in our process. |
| 2021-04-19 06:47:35 | <Irenes> | excellent then :) |
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| 2021-04-19 06:53:13 | <pjb> | Irenes: it's not an inclusive "we", it's a majestic "we"! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we |
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| 2021-04-19 06:54:18 | Axman6 | royal waves |
| 2021-04-19 06:54:19 | <Irenes> | hehe :3 |
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| 2021-04-19 06:54:58 | <Axman6> | btw, I'm Australian, so I'm gonna use "youse" |
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| 2021-04-19 07:03:03 | <Irenes> | "youse" works fine, thanks haha |
| 2021-04-19 07:03:20 | <Axman6> | youse're welcome |
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